2/3 Quaker Flash

[clipclop]

Heres one of my current projects , its a 2/3rds Quaker Flash called a Quiver in the plans an article . Im going to put a geared speed400 driveing an 8X6 electric prop .
Should be a nice sunday flyer .
Stewart

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another shot,sorry the pics are poor my camera is a cheapy

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Wings covered , note I used cane to frame the tips . Its nice and light and strong .
4 1/8sq spruce spars .
Stewart

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A quick shot of the magazine article cover , oh its 45" span
Stewart

[Gerald]

A quick shot of the magazine article cover , oh its 45" span
StewartLooks like it's coming along nicely. Is that a current magazine article or older?

[clipclop]

Gerald,
Its an old plan , from August 1989 Radio Modeler .
It was designed to suit the "New Irvine Mills .75" so it should perform well with the 400 conversion .
Stewart

[markie]

Hi Clipclop. Any follow up on this project? Can one still obtain plans for this plane?
Thanks,
Mark

[JMP_blackfoot]

You can still find the 35" span "Quaker Oat" plan by Ben Buckle. See this page :
http://www.benbucklevintage.fsbusiness.co.uk/planlists/powered_q-sl.htm#quaker_flash

[markie]

Merci, Monsieur!

[uniflite]

thier was a guy back east who sold old time kits, and for the life of me I cant remember who it was, anyway he made the full size and 3/4, I picked up the 3/4 and used a speed 400, flew pretty good and because it was a stick model it was light enuff to go electric. anyway I went nuts and scratch built my 2nd full size version,this model will fly hands off when trimmed, on a summer evening thiers nothin better , especially with a nice quite OS 40 F/S in front, just lay the tranny on the table put in a little left trim and kick back, itll fly it self............. :D :D :D

[Snorks]

Did you ever finish this one clip clop? I was recently given the same magazine & also have the plan & article.
Cheers
Simon

[Warren B]

Hi All, as a long time lurker, mention of the Quiver finally prompted me to sign up.
My Quiver, built from the same RCM&E plan is a great flyer.
Started life with a Mark I ED Bee - fast and aerobatic, but rather a short tank run.
Then moved on to Irvine Mills 75 - much slower and very relaxing, but missed the aerobatics.
Latest is a Frog 100 MkIII red head - fast and aerobatic, but now runs about 5 minutes on a little tinplate tank.
The Quiver can be highly recommended for all styles fast and slow. In it's latest form it even does pretty good ruddr only rolls.

[Snorks]

Very nice warren ! Nice loaction for the TX switch,What covering is that?
cheers
Simon

[Warren B]

Hi Simon,
The covering is Polyspan, dope and estapol.
Despite my highly visible switch position the Quiver is still a veteran of one good long free flight (I thought the engine would never cut). Very lucky to be returned by an earlier park spectator who spotted it on his way home.
Now sports a large name and phone number under the wing.

Flew another this afternoon, an enlarged Bugaboo with an ED Comp Special.
Fly's nicely but power is marginal in a breeze. I'm going to try an ED Hunter next (same bolt holes) but the power jump might be a bit startling.

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Simon,
Yep , but ended up fitting a PAW100 R/C , a little over powered, a PAW80 would be about right and still give lively performance, very relaxed at 1/4-1/2 throttle still tho.
Also have a 54" version to build from Penn Valley Hobbies , I'm thinking of a Mk17 with an R/C throttle in it.
Stewart
Gotta be a diesel right ?

[Snorks]

As mentioned, plan shows an irvine mills but I thought a Merlin might be more powerful whilst still bieng economical & light. I do have an AE 1cc,spitfire,mills 1.3 etc.I wouldnt mind doing electric, I have all the gear from a KK Scorpian (which, in my opinion ,flys very poorly).
Nice Bugaboo. Don't show Applehoney though :D
The prop on the Comp Special looks a bit small (?).
Anyhow ,thanks for sharing gents.
Covering was dope and 'estapol' - I guess you're also in Australia?
cheers
Simon

[John38]

My quivver flew ok with a mills 75 and standard sized radio gear apart from a a lighter nimh battery - this was in days before all the sub miniature Rx's and servos you get now. it was ok under power but glide not much good - built another wing with extra wing bay each side and an extra 3/4" chord which improved it a little.

recently took all radio out and flew it free flight at vintage at middle wallop - more satisfying.

[Warren B]

My Quiver has a couple of the cheap Tower 9g servo's in it, I've had good exeperience with these so far and at $7 ea, there's no chepoaer/ligher way.
The glide is quite good even with the heavy Frog 100 up front.

The Comp Special has used various 10x6 props, seems best with a Bolly 10 1/2 x 6.

Yes, another OZ flyer, in Melbourne.

[RyanNX211]

Warren:

What's Estapol?

[Snorks]

clear varnish

[John38]

what kind of clear varnish ?? fuel proof against diesel/glo ??

good luck with the Hunter - must be at least twice the power of the comp !!

My Hunter died a long long time ago - vertical cracks on the piston

[Warren B]

Hi John, as you say the Hunter is rather more than double the power, but it has an ED throttle so that may help me slow things down a bit. The throttle response is best described as entertaining.
Snorks, pity to hear your KK Scorpion was disappointing, I have one of BB's 1.5X Super Scorpions and it flies impecably. First flew with an OS 26 FS, but now sports a Mills 5 cc (Indian version of a Mills engine that never reached production).

Estapol is a one pack polturethane. The satin works well and is reasonably fuel proof, but I use 2 pack gloss around the engine bay.

[Snorks]

My Scorpian was OK. Built from BB plans. I built mine as a slabsider -not the triangular fus. I found it needed alot of pilot input, the rudder response was poor (looks about the same area as yours) and had a tendancy to tip stall. It almost felt as though it needed ailerons. Even though it weighed very little it always came in quite hot on the landing. Turning in on finals required a long base leg because the turn was so poor.
Thus it didnt fly like a lofty oldtimer & didnt fly like a sports plane either. I still have it here.
cheers
Simon

[Warren B]

Hi Snorks, how very odd. My Scorpion just wafts in at about walking pace. Rudder isn't as powerful as my Majestic Major but it will still do a reasonable rudder only roll. Figure 8's just above the field at joggin pace are great fun (if there aren't too many others flying fast passes at the same time). Never ran out of rudder or even a hint of tip stall.
I have a fair amount of washout and a rather rearward CG. Had to pack up the tail LE about 3/16" to cure steep climb under power, still have another 1/4" of down elevator mixed in with throttle as well.
Only thing it won't do is taxi, the Mills only has two speeds, splutter and flat chat, with about a 15 second delay between the two.

[johnvb]

Hi Warren, what span is your enlarged Bugaboo?

[Warren B]

Hi John, the Bugaboo is about 50" span.