View Full Version : Anyone flying a Fixx?
MikeC
May 11, 2004, 09:44 AM
Thinking about getting one for park flying.
It is difficult to fly?
Does it thermal ok?
Mike
jonnyjetprop
May 11, 2004, 10:33 AM
I have one although I don't fly it any more. I flew well in no wind/ very light winds. I would not roll at all, even with the throws jacked way up. I had the stock power system. Its in semi retirement as I have pull the components for other projects.
John
BrunswickOH
May 11, 2004, 07:59 PM
I retired mine, it flew nicely with the stock setup but I didn't find it to be anything special so I took it off my flightline!! It is pretty strong though, I tried to fly it when I was learning as one of my first planes and pretty much just drove it into the ground. I put it away until I had some more experience. I pulled it back out and it flew very nice just wasn't for me so I retired it.
tone
May 11, 2004, 09:44 PM
I fly with a guy that has one stock, and he gets a lot out of it.
Pretty cool wing. He says he wouldn't reccomend it unless you fly over lawn quality grass. Sure looks good though..
on a side note: i have a Zagi 400 and a 24" wing on ips direct, i flew the little one today for 50 minutes on a 2s 700 etec.... loads of fun..
no stick
May 11, 2004, 10:33 PM
The Zagi Fixx is a very predictable flying wing if you upgrade the power plant to a 300 size brushed or brushless. I use the Astro 010 brushless with a GWS gearbox at 2.8:1 ratio, APC 8x6 Slow Fly prop and Etech 3s 1200 combo. Sweet!
Ed
SPEED-E-FLYER
May 13, 2004, 01:38 PM
I used a Direct Drive Astro 010 with 3s 1500 and had a blast.
Would climb up fast(65>deg.) had a lot of throw in the control surfaces too help with the roll rate.
I love thermaling it till it's almost out of sight.
I broke my last one. It could have been glued back together but it was not as pretty as it once was. So I bought a new wingcore and another whole FIXX RTF.
One will have the brushless Astro DD 10 and the other one will have some geared brushless set up with reinforcement in the wing. I would like for it to have a 90 deg climbout.
Larry
no stick
May 13, 2004, 02:22 PM
One will have the brushless Astro DD 10 and the other one will have some geared brushless set up with reinforcement in the wing. I would like for it to have a 90 deg climbout.
Larry
Keep us updated Larry.
I keep looking at your video of the DD version and wondered why your rolls were better than mine. My loops are insane: outside loops in a 30 foot circle and inside loops in a 20 foot circle. I want my rolls quick so I will set the ailerons max. I too have another wing core I have yet to build. I decided to put the brushless in the old one and wait for it to die a carnage death.
Ed
Buster Brown
May 13, 2004, 03:28 PM
I flew my Fixx a little last summer, but was really disappointed at the chalky, weak z-foam material and the easily-scratched/torn skin on top of it. Anything less than a smooth belly-landing on a soft lawn really scratched the covering and cracked the foam up. The skin is weakly attached to the foam; so much that if you put a piece of tape down, you'll have to leave it, as any attempts to peel it off usually result in the skin tearing lose from the foam. The canopy is hinged and retained with stickers, which is really dumb considering how I also felt it's performance with the stock IPS motor was weak, and never could get a controlled loop, regardless of building up speed in a dive. I plan on trying it with my new brushless this weekend, which should fix the problem with power.
However, I love the way the Fixx glides and the streamlined looks of it. But with my amateur flying skills it takes more than a pretty face to constitute a good plane. ;)
I've since learned to not trust the reviews in most of the magazines. The discussion board is the place to go to get the real scoop.
Thanks.
rc10t3
May 13, 2004, 05:28 PM
The Fixx was the first wing I got and like many others mention was a quick dissapointment (others have been happy with it though). I now fly a Combat Wings XE-2 and am extremely happy with it, I should have it converted to Brushless by early next week. I also just bought a Mini XE, which should arrive tomorrow.
Unless you have your heart set on a Fixx (hey, it's sexy), I would suggest getting a Combat Wing or one of the other good EPP wings.
Good Luck
MikeC
May 13, 2004, 07:10 PM
Im interested in the Fixx for an easy going park flyer that I can throw in the back seat and will also thermal. Not interested in speed or hotdoggin around. I fly at grass sites.
thanks for the replys so far.
Mike
MGBGTRacer
May 14, 2004, 09:33 AM
I love my Fixx- It's slow, for sure... but there are days when I NEED a slow plane. It can't handle wind, but on a calm day there's nothing more fun than letting the dogs chase it back and forth across the park.
I've flown in indoors (soccer field) and was able to pull loops without a problem indoors. Rolls are not so good since it's really not fast enough with stock power.
I guess I'll upgrade the power system and use my LiPos in it one day...
It's the best looking wing out there and a great flyer.
PoudreDerf
Aug 31, 2004, 11:17 PM
I just ordered one from Hobby Lobby. I was impressed with the ZAGI 3-C slope glider when it took out a tree limb. ZAGI knows how to get quality parts. The FiXX, however, is a work of art, a sailor of the skies. I think it's going to be fine for those calm mornings and evenings up here in the Rockies. It's not a combat ship. It's made to show off its beauty. I'm really looking forward to it.
BIG TIP - Make sure you balance your wing! This is important on airplanes, very important on helicopters, and mandatory on flying wings. Keep the area behind the Center of Gravity as light as possible!
Flyin Hawaiian
Sep 01, 2004, 02:43 AM
I bought a fixx some time back. built it, took it to the golf course, threw it for a test glide(per instructions), it landed on the grass and crumbled into 6 big pieces and a bunch of dust. Zagi would not stand behind what I call a defective product. Not me, or any of my friends have bought anything that says zagi since then....and never will
GBR2
Sep 01, 2004, 11:42 AM
I wasn't particularly impressed with the Fixx when I got it last year. Looked great but its performance didn't live up to its looks and I had enough parkflyers, so I parked it. This year I decided to do something about it, so replaced the power system with a PJS 300SF brushless motor, Phoenix 10 controller, APC 7x4 prop and a 3 cell 1320 TP Lipo pack. With this combo, the plane balanced exactly as it had with the standard components. What a difference. I can still fly it slow if I want but now it truly is a little hot rod. It actually rolls and loops great. Even does outside loops. It does tend to tip stall on occassion but I'm use to that. It is now one of my favorite planes and I take it out to the field everytime I go. Flight time is 20 - 25 minutes. Thermals nicely also. I like the plane so much that I bought another one to have in case disaster strikes and the plane is totalled.
It also appears that the Fixx is now discontinued. Tower sold out there last ones in stock, Trick no longer lists it on their website and wing sets are also no longer available. Joe said he had a few left for anyone who wants one. I just wish the Fixx could have come out with a decent power plant when originally released. It certainly flies really nice now with my current power setup.
SPEED-E-FLYER
Sep 01, 2004, 12:03 PM
I found out the same with my FIXX.
With a good motor it performs very well. Yes, it will tipstall on you if you go too slow in a turn, but once you understand it it's no problem.
It's Great in a Thermal. I don't know how many times I would just about lose it circling up a thermal.
I'm glad I got an extra set of wing cores.
Larry
andrewwells13
May 18, 2006, 06:44 PM
I tried flying my Zagi Fixx for the first time the other day and it hit the ground nose first before I could even get both hands on the radio! I have already glued it all back together and am ready to take it out again. It was probably too windy (10-15 mph). I have found lots of web sites that show how to throw/launch a regular zagi. But this thing is so light and responsive to the wind, did any of you Zagi Fixx owners come up with a sure fire way to throw/launch this thing and give yourself enough time to control it?
rchawks
May 18, 2006, 07:27 PM
It's a great plane, (but) it has it's limitations with a stock setup. For flying with no wind or very little wind (5 mph ) it's a blast to fly and will thermal easily. Too easily if you're not careful. It does have a very nasty zagi spin of death but only it you try to make it float. Getting out of the spin is very difficult but can be done. For what you want it to do it should be perfect. But be very aware of the trees and the tip stall. I've dorked it into the ground several times in the stall condition and the most damage it's suffered has been the elevon skin tearing loose which i fixed with scotch tape. I bought aileron tape later but had to leave the scotch tape in place as the thin membrane wanted to come up with it. For a sport flyer it does very well if you watch what you're doing, and it looks Great!!
MGBGTRacer
May 18, 2006, 10:51 PM
5-10mph wind is WAY too much... that's a calm day bird. I dial in just a touch of 'up' and launch it level with power off. It glides so well, it hardly drops by the time I punch the throttle and pull up and out. They look fantastic in the air and I've even flown mine indoors- one of the few planes larger than a slow stick that could pull aerobatics in the small indoor soccer field. I REALLY wish they'd make a bigger 480 to 600 size version with the molded curved tips...
rchawks
May 18, 2006, 10:55 PM
I agree with MGBGTRacer that anything above 5 mph is way to much. Actually 3 mph or less is best!
Pezzer
May 19, 2006, 04:13 AM
Zagi stopped making them and there is a reason. Them not making them anymore is a red flag in my book as they were only on the market for a short time. There was some issues with the foam they used for that wing. Some builders, most I herd of including a so-so review in a couple a mags, had problems with that new foam they used. Color bleeding I think was one. They few well once you got passed the problems.
If you want the exact mags and dates so you can read them I will. Should have them somewere around here.
Mave fun with whatever wing you fly and clear skies!
-Dave :D
MGBGTRacer
May 19, 2006, 08:28 AM
They hyped them up for so long before the were released that they couldn't live up to the hype. It's a nice, nice flyer- but people expected the second coming of Christ after the ads for over a year were promising this beautiful wing. There were some that apparently had an issue with the foam turning brittle and coming apart, but the two I've owned were extremely durable and absolutely a joy to fly.
SGTalon
May 19, 2006, 09:47 AM
Combat Wings.... www.combatwings.com is a far superior flying wing.
They are EPP foam = Indestructible
Excellent Airfoil for everything - Thermals, Slope, High Speed, Low Speed, Combat, Park Flying - You name it.
Plus the kit is a better setup.
I have flown mine more than 2000 times and have never damaged it. Vertically into the ground at 60 mph no damage at all
Winds anywhere from 0-30mph and it is stable. I love flying in high winds with my Combat Wing!
Look at this thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518920
minifly
May 19, 2006, 01:19 PM
Still don't know why TrickRC didn't just use moulded EPP + a carbon rod......
no stick
May 19, 2006, 01:27 PM
Combat Wings.... www.combatwings.com is a far superior flying wing.
They are EPP foam = Indestructible
Excellent Airfoil for everything - Thermals, Slope, High Speed, Low Speed, Combat, Park Flying - You name it.
Plus the kit is a better setup.
I have flown mine more than 2000 times and have never damaged it. Vertically into the ground at 60 mph no damage at all
Winds anywhere from 0-30mph and it is stable. I love flying in high winds with my Combat Wing!
Look at this thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518920
Gosh posting in all the Fixx threads. Must be an exact Fixx molded EPP clone. I loved those Fixx wing tips. Pictures please. :rolleyes:
Ed
Pezzer
May 19, 2006, 03:19 PM
Still don't know why TrickRC didn't just use moulded EPP + a carbon rod......
GREAT point Mini! How I understand it is yes, TrickRC thought that new foam for the Fixx was the second comming. It wasn't. That's why they are sticking to just EPP wings now.
However I also have been told they fly great once togather correctly...
-Dave :D
MGBGTRacer
May 19, 2006, 05:44 PM
Compared to a combat wing, there plenty of even better flying wings- but talk about comparing apples to oranges. Everyone makes the same ugly EPP wings. What made the Fixx different was the shape... combat wings look like butt compared to a Fixx.
Geez, thanks for the commercial though.
rchawks
May 19, 2006, 06:40 PM
:D ... :D As far as lauching 1/2 to full throttle and throw her straight out and up she goes (sometimes a hand full!)
RCWorks
May 20, 2006, 03:05 AM
I remember Trick R/C held this puppy out for 2 years before selling any...
A friend bought one, each time he flew it he had more pieces to reassemble.
While I liked the look of the Fixx it was not as durable as the sales text said it was, far from it. But hey looks are what sells this stuff, flight quality be darned. His had a nasty tendency to tip right and fall.
After it was FUBAR we gutted it. This was during foil testing for the Sickle, We cut him a nice replacment out of 1lb EPS which proved to be better than the Z foam material.
http://www.rcworks.com/mp/sickleips.jpg
I do credit Trick R/C for using IPS drive to fly a wing. I would not have gone so small on the power system.
While the Zfoam was not there for Rick to prove himself the R/C pilot all the rest of this wing was original Trick R/C.
A fixxed Fixx (http://www.rcworks.com/videos/lilskunk.wmv)
*This is the only one of these we ever cut. This was a favor I did for a newbie who was getting frustrated. That Newbie can be seen in this video CATCHING his wing after a couple weeks of time with it. The vid was made by another pilot hoping that I would do a park flyer. Maybe but not in 36". This thing will fly at a good jogging pace.
*The EPS sickle never existed as a publicly available kit. However the airfoil on this is the one we still use.
MGBGTRacer
May 20, 2006, 02:47 PM
So it looks like just a zagi... I guess I don't see the point. The Fixx I had didn't have bad tendencies and it didn't fall apart. Flight quality was excellent. It was a calm day or indoor only bird and there's nothing wrong with buying something because it looks good. Nobody has come out with a wing that looks nearly as good. Seems silly- it would be easy to make an EPP wing with plastic molded tips that look just like the Fixx... and it would sell... a lot.
rchawks
May 20, 2006, 05:56 PM
I'm sure you can find as good ( or indeed a better deal ) for $120.00 ( I think that's what I paid ) but with that you got a speed control a 8 cell nimh battery and jst connector, geared pusher motor, heat sink, Huge prop, glue, ect. If you're careful the airplane will last, ( I have over sixty flights on mine ) So that's only 2 dollars a flight and every time I take it out that drops even more. I like seeing the plane high in the air, it looks like a bird at distance.
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