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HankF
Apr 04, 2004, 04:01 PM
I have been using all the major R/C simulators including Aerofly Pro and RealflightG2 for several years. I recently added Reflex to my stable. Here is a sample of my intial reaction to Reflex as compared with RealflightG2

The model parameters of Reflex are mostly in the form of engineering quantities such as various moments or of various fudge factors (0 - 1). These could be quite hard for an average modeler to come up with. Realflight, on the other hand asks for easily measurable quantities such as length or weight or area and calculates the needed engineering quantities internally. The disadvantage of this approach is that the user is at the mercy of the accuracy of the intermediate calculations. For both sims the input quantities may have to be fudged to get the model to fly realistically. It just seems easier to understand what is being fudged in Realflight than it is in Reflex.

At this point, I feel it is easier to get a realistically performing heli in RfG2 that Reflex. I have the feeling that Reflex is a more sophisticated version of FMS.

Hank

lamborghini
Apr 05, 2004, 07:04 AM
and what do say about the aerofly pro compared to them(reflex,rfg2) ?

wsn
Apr 05, 2004, 02:40 PM
"Reflex is a more sophisticated version of FMS"

That statement disqualifies Hank to 100%. It clearly shows the absence of any hard knowledge about aerodynamics and any kind of model aviation experience. Bye,bye Hank.

Wolfgang

Arthur_GA
Apr 05, 2004, 02:58 PM
And that's the worst customer relations approach I have ever read/heard/seen.

Auf wiedersehen, Wolfgang/Reflex...

HELLO, REALFLIGHT!!

wsn
Apr 05, 2004, 04:42 PM
Bye,bye Arthur! "Customer" relation is what I have with the people beeing interested in my product. Hank just want's to descredit. I better spend my time with CUSTOMERS and interested people. Watch earlier posts of HankF and try to get the message - and don't tell ME anything about customer relation. If I lost you as a customer, I can't change it. But I will stand up for my product and if someone is writing nonsens about my product I put it right. That simple! If that doesn't go along with yout "customer relation" idea, we may have different oppinions about the customer relation. I now from experience that I can't make a product that is 100% perfect for 100% of my customers. 97% is a good factor and Hank is a 3% type. Besides, I doubt that he really got Reflex. He pretended to have Reflex in August already but gave it back to TH so what should drive him to buy it again?

wolfgang

banshee_dude
Apr 05, 2004, 08:09 PM
whoa dude settle down, he was just sayng his oppinion and every one entitled to in an oppininion, and its not like he was saying it sucks, hes just saying rfg2 is more gauged to beginners and reflex is more toward more advanced people. thats just my oppinion:D .

HankF
Apr 05, 2004, 11:51 PM
Wow, what did I say that got you so mad, Wolfgang? Is it badmouthing to say that Reflex "feels like a sophisticated version of FMS?" That was not my intention but to let people who use FMS know that it "feels" somewhat similar.

In fact I have been quite supportive of Reflex. I even posted a means of powering up one's transmitter with a wall-wart powersupply so you wouldn't have to use the batteries and run the rf section! I even suggested that you provide the same capability with your transmitter adapter.

I've been using Reflex almost exclusively since I bought it and am eagerly awaiting the XTR upgrade. I do also fly Rf from time to time to get a feel for the differences.

I don't believe I've said anything untrue about Reflex as compared with Realflight.

One question: are you going to provide a tutorial on how to calculate the moments of inertia for the various axes that you require in your inputs?

Hank

Arthur_GA
Apr 06, 2004, 01:00 AM
personal attack removed by moderator

I sure don't want ANY sort of business with someone who flames a CUSTOMER (he SAID he BOUGHT this thing) because he expresses his opinion.

RealFlight ROCKS!

wsn
Apr 06, 2004, 02:42 AM
With that "fritz"-stuff that discussion is over anyway. Have fun. wolfgang

steve lewin
Apr 06, 2004, 03:09 AM
Wolfgang is correct about one thing, if people are unable to discuss the subject without resorting to name-calling this thread is over.

Steve