NEW Raceing Plane....

[AIR MOVER]

After alot of testing I have this to offer up.. there made to do one thing.. fly fast with a gws50 7.2v motor and 3030 .. I have clocked this plane flying 51mph and yet it can glide smooth and stable for landings on hard or grass surfaces.. will ROG off the ground in 10feet.. nimble up close high speed flying is its best feature.. loops with ease inside or outside.. roll rate as fast or slow as you wish.. will go from level flight to vertical zooms and gain 100ft plus vertical climb before falling off .. or climb out at 70deg ...will fly stable in 20mph winds and gusty..

suggested gear..

2cell pack of 340kokams
2 cirus 5.4g servo's
gws 4ch Rx
2amp esc.
gws7.2v motor '
3030 prop.
Plane comes completed in box ...hinged and horns on and landing gear mounted, tail skid.... mount for battery the Rx and esc and elevator servo installed..
16in span
2.5 to 3oz total flying weight.

cost $20
shipping 3.85 USPS

[AIR MOVER]

:D

[AIR MOVER]

:)

[spadforme]

I'll take one if you take paypal. Please pm me with the details.

[Lance]

I'll take that one. Sending PM. :)

[Art Newland]

I'll take one also, if you take paypal. PM me with payment info. Art

[pburress]

I'll take one! Sending PM

[SPEED-E-FLYER]

Me too. I mean I want 2 kits
Send PM with address for MO

Larry


EDIT: I will use Pay-Pal if it helps
I would like to get in on the first shipment. :p

[Nik-rc]

I'll take one!
Where to paypal?

Thanks!

[Martin Irvine]

I'd like one as well. Where do we PayPal?

Martin

[Etonic]

OK OK ....I give...count me in too!

Geez...another plane :rolleyes:

Send me you paypal!

-Mark

[smsgill]

I'll take two. Let me know where to send funds.

Thanks,
Scott

[Synthetic]

I better buy one since Larry is buying two of them. Where to send Pay Pal please? Thanks, Don...

[jbc455]

Looks great. I'll take one.

John

[mcrabby311]

Im liking this too, please count me in! Mark

[spadforme]

This guy is going to crap when he checks back in on this thread.

[pval3]

Where do you want the paypal to go??

Is there a choice of colors or just straight wood - we finish?

how long before you are ready to ship . .where am I in the que??

phil

[pval3]

I hope you are ready - response is out of control . . .

ps . . . . great threads on th!s plane@

[microflite]

One for me too. Let me know when u can ship.

-Ashok

[termite]

I HATE being left out so I'd like to use PayPal, send info!!! THANKS Randy

[Quags]

I cannot be left out!!!! Paypal info...................

[mcrabby311]

time to set us all up airmover!!!! great looking plane, just what I need, ready to give up more $$$$$. Mark

[AIR MOVER]

Hey guys sorry was working. im back. Yes I use Pay Pal..

my account is Bradoo7@aol.com

I will send them on who requested first..

If your in the US shipping is just 3.85
if your outside the US PM me and we can figure out what it would take..I have sento oversea's and aware of the going rates.

Thankyou all for your intrest...

Brad

[OzzieFlyer]

Ha Ha...Air Movers going to be VEEERRRYY busy. I'm one of the early Windbuster owners...he built me an earlier biplane version...more of a custom job than anything else. Built more for slower flight than straight out speed and wind penetration. However with a GWS300h DD motor on it, it still screams and penetrates wind like no other plane I have. Air Mover keeps building and testing new designs, and recently came up with the one you see here. He seems to have hit the nail on the head with this one...small, lightweight, yet fast nimble and most importantly good wind penetration. I'm glad mine is already on it's way (20" version) so I don't have to wait behind you guys now. :D I am eager to test it out.

FYI, I will be putting a DD300H on mine with a 4040 or 4540 prop and irate850 2s pack. It will be heavy for such a small wing span, but Air Mover says it will still be very flyable and EXTREMELY fast. He has tested similar configs with great success.

The main word of advice I have for you guys is, KEEP THE THROWS SMALL. When I got my biplane, I didn't adjust the throws, it was a real handful,...once I adjusted them to 50% or less...it became a very stable fun little bird.

When I get mine, I'll probably do a build thread to show how the kit comes, how to build it and the power setups.

Congratulations

[spadforme]

Hey Brad,

Just paid thru paypal. I was first. I hope you got a lot of balsa, and some new Exacto blades, cause you are going to be busy.

[microflite]

Brad, After watching a video, I'm a little scared now! :)
This thing is not only fast but vanishes quickly due to
its small size making it hard to see the attitude.

I've never flown an aileron plane before but am a
pretty good pilot with the 3ch ones. Can this thing
be flown slow to start with and progressively go faster?

-Ashok

[spadforme]

Ashok,

where did you see a video of this plane. Please give us a link.

[AIR MOVER]

Here is a link to a larger racer that take 280 to 300 size motors or small brushless..

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1747366#post1747366

[microflite]

Brad, Are uselling the larger ones too?


As for the video, it somewhere in this thread

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=151921&perpage=15&highlight=wind%20buster&pagenumber=16

sorry I dont remember the page number. its around 16
Brad shd be able to point us to good videos. This one is
grainy and doesnt show ROG or a good landing

Ashok

[microflite]

Oh sorry I do see that u sell them. It says so on the page.
OK I'll send u money for one of those. I would like to be
able to start slow.

Ashok

[OzzieFlyer]

microflite. videos are generally not a good way to deteremine how YOU will see the plane. Everything always looks smaller than what it does in real life. You do have a point though, the smaller plane will be harder to see, so effective marking and the use of landing gear will help in identifying orientation in the sky.

I'm not sure of the slowflight capabilities of this model...the lighter you make it the better, but it's not designed as a slowflyer. So IMHO this really isn't suited as a first aileron plane. You may be better off learning on something slower, then moving to this when you are comfortable.

Having said that, these are tough little planes...I crashed my bipe NUMEROUS times and have never broken a wing or tail. (plenty of props though ;) ) I have broken the spar once (after I had already weakened it by modifying it). Many of us are using a CF arrow shaft as a fuse. these are STRONG, ..you won't break them in a hurry.

[Art Newland]

You've been paid, Thanks, Art.
Your PM box is full (surprise)

[AIR MOVER]

lol ok cleaned out some room in my inbox for PM's...
ty for letting me know..

[AIR MOVER]

The lil racer will fly at half throttle.. anything less and it looses height.. it can tick around at about 15mph .. full throttle clocked at 51mph..

[smsgill]

Just sent PayPal.

Thanks,
Scott

[Quags]

Paypal sent from me. Holy crap, this thing is moving too fast.

[Jim Poor]

I was in on the original wind buster craze. I have 4 of them in various configurations. None of you will be dissapointed that's for sure.

[AIR MOVER]

Here is another pic :p ... a very low pass by and you can see the nose is up fixing to climb out.. very smooth stable do to the type of plane it is .. it can track low to the ground without getting tossed about.. due to the power to weight ratio..notice the camera has tobe moveing with the plane to get a clear shot of it..you can see parking lot lamps sweeping as the camera was tracking the plane.. :D

[AIR MOVER]

I have some better flying pics I will dig them out and post for you..

[Synthetic]

AIR MOVER, I am still waiting for the Pay Pal request to show up. You are sending them to us in line with when we said we wanted one? Thanks, I will send Pay Pal as soon as the request shows up! Thanks.....

[Synthetic]

Airmover, I thought you said you would send a Pay Pal request now I went back and read it and it said you would send to those who requested it first. Duh, now I get it. Sent you Pay Pal funds and it says, "completed".. Thanks.....

[CAFplanekid]

Hehehe, somebody has something to do all weekend! Bring a bunch to Big Spring at that price and theyll sell easy i bet, ill be good for 2.
Jonathan

[lini]

I'll take one, PM sent.

[SPEED-E-FLYER]

Sent my payment via Pay-pal
Lookig forward with anticipation.

Larry

[jbc455]

Payment sent.

Thanks,
John

[ajeepham]

OK'
Payment made via Paypal for a 15.75 mono...

Thanks, Darrell

[mcrabby311]

OK Air Mover!, I posted on the first page of this thread, having interest in purchase. I hope that got me in! I now have paid through PayPal, and so much looking forward to this new racer! Mark

[AIR MOVER]

You all are most welcome and thankyou tooooo... I will close this for sell thread when I reach my max limit for order.. which is 25.. and will complete them in order of the pay pal requests.. I have some new pics comeing out soon as I can dig them up ..

Best Regards

Brad

[AIR MOVER]

Here is another inflight photo..:)

[Art Newland]

would this be a good candidate for cdrom conversion power?

[AIR MOVER]

lol thats what im going to do Art .. same size cd rom motor with a 3030 and kokam 340s I want to set it up to draw 3.5 to 4amps..

[AIR MOVER]

:)

[Art Newland]

that motor has 3x2 GWS prop, on 3s lipoly turns 22K rpms! @ 4 amps. I'll have to tack it up on 2S and see what it does.

[MrC]

I will take one.

--MrC

Will pay pal in a few minutes


PS. Will a johnson 250 work on this plane?

[OzzieFlyer]

Art...that looks like it would be pretty good. What bats ? the Kokam 340's would be ideal. What's the weight of the motor ?

[AIR MOVER]

the 250 is heavy but.. if you dont mind a increase in wing loading.. and use some 340 kokams your set for pure vertical on a 4020.. just mount the motor right in front of the leading edge and set up your gear to maintian the cg of the plane. .Im sure guys are going to push the plane with bigger motors. lol.. but its talor made for the gws motor 7.2v or 4.8 on the 340 kokams..I like the case size of the cirus 5.4g servos its a tiny case and the servo's go for 19 bucks at my hobby store..:D

[Art Newland]

OzzieFlyer,
I've only bench tested the motor so far, been running it on 3S-1200 etec and 2S-1500 Kokam. Those are far too heavy for this plane so I'm looking for a small battery. How much does a 3S-340 Kokam weigh? The motor weighs about 25-26 grams, will be a little less when I cut off the motor shaft.

[termite]

PayPal sent THANKS Randy

[mcrabby311]

PayPal sent here too! Mark

[kushal_22]

I will take one of these as well.

MAl

[Jim Poor]

I don't have one of the latest planes yet, but I put my original WB up with 7 cell 1100 Mah NiMHs with an Astro 010 and the 5.5x4 prop. It was great.

I REALLY need to get back on the WB band wagon HINT HINT

[OzzieFlyer]

Art. The kokam 340's are 0.8oz, or about 25gms...same as your motor.

They can handle 20C however !...so about 6.8amps continous. The only issue is that at 4amps WOT, you're only going to get about 5minutes flying. (what a 5 minutes it will be though) ;)

[Art Newland]

OzzieFlyer
I'm expecting 60-70 MPH! Don't know how much full throttle I can take, if it's not fast enough I can bump it up to a 3x3 @ 4.75 amps!

[AIR MOVER]

Hey guys just a update.. about 5 more sells and im going close the thread and get these orders taken care.. of..

For all that has one or two on order thankyou !
Im looking forward to the feedback on these..

Brad

[AIR MOVER]

Art..would you like your wing alittle more robust to handle your cd rom motor.? What I would do is insure your wing is done with little harder balsa .... I am going to do the same for another guy useing cd rom motors.. anyone else ? let me know .. thankyou again.. again I can do about 5 more orders. from this post.

[Art Newland]

AIR MOVER, sounds like a good idea, a little heavier won't bother me any. Art

[tizken]

I'll take one also, PM me with paypal details.

Tim

[AIR MOVER]

PM sent.

[AIR MOVER]

here is one of my screen savors

[AIR MOVER]

I still can take 5 more orders..

[kushal_22]

I will take one with a more robust wing. I have a Razor 400 i was going to put on mine until my CD rom motor comes. So that extra weight wont be too noticable

Mal

[Steve H.]

I will take one if they are ready to ship or will be in a couple days or so.

[AIR MOVER]

Cue I have made a large order for balsa based on the sells Im allowing it to go to 30 units.. I have 5 spots left.. the next chance to get one will be in about 2weeks.. Im mass building, stacking the wood doing triple cuts, three balsa planks per. I have a good scroll saw for the job .. wish I had lazer cutter. my goal is to have the wood lazer cutted and then all I have to do is sculpt the airfoils and put washout in the wing tips.. I airfoil the horizontal and vertical stabs and hinge the ailerons .. elevator.. horns on the elevator.. landing gear installed tail skid.. .. battery mount each phase will be done in mass .. this is the fastest way rather then one at a time... so my best suggestion is jump on the band wagon.. and enjoy shareing your efforts with the rest of us, all units get released at the same time.. There will be a thread running for everyone to kick in info and post pics mods.. upgrades .. flight vids.. . should be a source of good humor and entertainment... Thankyou for your Intrest Cue

Brad

[CV-22]

I'll take one...just sent payment with paypal, name is Kelly...thanks!:)

[AIR MOVER]

Thankyou Kelly!..

[Synthetic]

Brad,
All the machinery that you mentioned above takes electricity and you are in Texas! I thought Texas didn't have electricity yet? Hehehh....ok, just kidding don't throw my order away...See ya,Don

[Jackspt28]

I'll take one if you still have any left.Please E-mail me and I'll Pay Pal you the money. E-Mail Jackspt28@AOL.com.

[AIR MOVER]

Yes Jack your good to go.. email sent..

[GoodTill]

You can add me to the list if any are left. PM sent

Mike

[Jackspt28]

Air Mover , I need to know the amount and your Pay Pal address , I didn' t see it in the E-mail, Thanks Jack

[AIR MOVER]

total for plane and shipping is 23.85. pay pal is Bradoo7@aol.com

[AIR MOVER]

Ok Im down to 2 more sells then I will have to stop takeing orders...I dont want to go over 30 requests. thats plenty of work to keep me busy busy.. after this batch is done I will the reopen the thread for orders again.. ...

Best Regards
Brad.

[Synthetic]

Brad, didn't you see my post where I "razzed" you about Texas? Most Texans don't let that get by without a come back. I didn't make you mad did I? Don

[AIR MOVER]

lol Don.. just becuase I live here doesnt make me a texan.. however;
since our president is from here it cant be too bad..
and Don..im a American from the great USA did time in the USAF and every state I have ever lived in was much better then the 6mos I spent in Saudi.... and to think they tried to get me to go back ewwww.. now thats something I would get razzed about .. Im really not much of a state hugger more a airplane hugger. =}

now you could say heyyyyyy brad I have a 10g brushless motor the produces 4oz thrust at 2amps with a prop tip speed of 130mph.. ......... twitch twitch twitch.....then the next day PM me with....... but since you live in texas Im afraid there isnt need for you to have one....... lol ooh I would feel razzed and then some...=}

[SPEED-E-FLYER]

You better get to work.
You don't have time to be fooling around with frivolous banter.
Wait with expectation

Larry

[AIR MOVER]

How about 10g brushless motor..with a carbon 3040 prop burning 2amps ..5oz thrust 130mph tip speed... with a 5amp 6g brushless controler.. for just 89.95 ?

Someone needs to make one so I can use it on these planes..

[AIR MOVER]

Larry is correct.. 10/4 that..

[Synthetic]

Oh, there is always time to have a little bit of fun. Trust me, Larry takes time to have fun and so should you....Don

[Art Newland]

AIR MOVER
check out www.littlescreamers.com for 10 oz bL motors.
rcflyer2 or Matthew Cotton here on the zone.

[AIR MOVER]

Yes been talking to Matt.. he is opening up the window for us all to have more power less weight.

[Matthew Cotten]

Hi guys,the first brushless external rotor motor will come in at 20grams and will draw about 5amps unloaded running a 4x4 prop on a 2s1p 340 pack however,if this motor does good in the market(and I'm sure it will at the price we will be asking)there will soon follow a 10gram micro external rotor motor.It will pull about the same amp draw,I have been testing the prototype 10gram motor at 10amp draw with a perfict track record on a 6oz PCW at around 100mph.Any one of these motors will be AWESOME on Brad's(AIR MOVER)great little WindBuster.Have you completed you motor yet Brad?Can't waite to here a flight report.

OK,thats enough for me,this thread is about WindBusters so back on track please.Matt

[AIR MOVER]

Thankyou for the Info ! Looking forward to the 10g motor with a gws 3030 and useing the 340 kokams.. looking for about 3.5 amps at full throttle if possible..The motor I have is just waiting on a working esc....

[AIR MOVER]

I have a two left, for anyone intrested.. =)

[AIR MOVER]

Building planes .. also note a finished plane with everything done .. landing gear on hinged .. mounts for the Rx batts esc.. total all up weight minus wheels.. (16g) is turning out tobe the norm.. I will post a link to photo's and how too's when I get closer tobeing finished with this order..

[richT]

I'll take one. email istari@earthlink.net

[smsgill]

I don't know about anyone else, but I am very interested in the development of the 10g Little Screamer motor. Matt, please keep us ezoner's posted on the development of this little guy.

Thanks,
Scott

[AIR MOVER]

Yes Im very intrested in the cd rom craze too.. and am a avid learner.. I will in time have cdrom motors for these planes.. as a option with the planes.. Im going to test this motor out on this
Racer.. for those who want to learn here is some tricks..
first cut a gws 50 motor in half the bolt pattern matches close enough to the back of a standard 23mm cdrom motor.. what this does for me is allows the use of a metal clip that holds the motor but will allow it to pop out during a bad crash.. these type clips work great for holding the gws50 and if your local electronic store has them try it, this one is a single cell battery clip for a AA battery.. also look at fuse clip holders some are made of thin light metal.. I have fuse clips large enough to hold 300 size motors.. and they have saved me from many chances to bend a motor shaft.. Im going to test a cox 3X1.2 with a gws hyperdrive spinner.. my goal is to get the run time with the vertical.. Im shooting for 3.5amps max draw..
Been very busy so sorry havent had any more input on this thread.. but busy is good.
Thankyou again everyone .

Brad

[thechosen1one]

Hope you still remember my two. Will have my other up and flying this weekend
Andy

[Flying Weasle]

I'll take one, PM sent

[AIR MOVER]

fantasic looking forward to seeing it fly.. should be a blast on the cdrom motor.. what size batts are you going to use?..I will drive over to your side of town let me know .. I hope to have a working esc then and will bring this plane and the 18in span and the other.. span for you to work on for testing.. Andy will be a big help flying..my planes with cd rom motors.. This green wing was talor made for gws 50 motors for perfomance above average// However .. there are some of us who are trying the next level with these small planes .. I will be detailing all possible motors .. such as the Johnson 250 .. Im also counting on you guys to try a few things yourselfs .. as I will be focusing on cd rom motors(new to me) now that im finished testing the gws50.
I would like to see some raceing with these planes.. There made tough and very very field repairable.. as far as structure...Im looking forward to shareing with all of you .