Flybar

[P.H.]

On the Vigor CS it gives you two options of flybar, one at 450mm and the
other at 610mm, what difference does the length make?

Regards

P.H.

[Peter Christy]

P.H. wrote:

> On the Vigor CS it gives you two options of flybar, one at 450mm and the
> other at 610mm, what difference does the length make?

Longer fly-bar = faster roll rate (all other things being equal).

(Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)

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[Peter Christy]

P.H. wrote:

> On the Vigor CS it gives you two options of flybar, one at 450mm and the
> other at 610mm, what difference does the length make?

Longer fly-bar = faster roll rate (all other things being equal).

(Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)

--
Pete
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[Stephen Bell]

"(Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)"

Why would it?The paddles are traveling faster and they have a longer lever
to work with. There is simply more cyclic potential.

stephen

"Peter Christy" <christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> P.H. wrote:
>
> > On the Vigor CS it gives you two options of flybar, one at 450mm and the
> > other at 610mm, what difference does the length make?
>
> Longer fly-bar = faster roll rate (all other things being equal).
>
> (Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)
>
> --
> Pete
> christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net
> (make the obvious amendments to reply!)

[Stephen Bell]

"(Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)"

Why would it?The paddles are traveling faster and they have a longer lever
to work with. There is simply more cyclic potential.

stephen

"Peter Christy" <christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> P.H. wrote:
>
> > On the Vigor CS it gives you two options of flybar, one at 450mm and the
> > other at 610mm, what difference does the length make?
>
> Longer fly-bar = faster roll rate (all other things being equal).
>
> (Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)
>
> --
> Pete
> christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net
> (make the obvious amendments to reply!)

[david]

"Peter Christy" <christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> P.H. wrote:
>
> > On the Vigor CS it gives you two options of flybar, one at 450mm and the
> > other at 610mm, what difference does the length make?
>
> Longer fly-bar = faster roll rate (all other things being equal).
>
> (Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)
>
> --

And more stable???

David

[david]

"Peter Christy" <christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> P.H. wrote:
>
> > On the Vigor CS it gives you two options of flybar, one at 450mm and the
> > other at 610mm, what difference does the length make?
>
> Longer fly-bar = faster roll rate (all other things being equal).
>
> (Yes, I know this defies logic, but believe me, its right!)
>
> --

And more stable???

David

[Peter Christy]

Stephen Bell wrote:

> Why would it?The paddles are traveling faster and they have a longer lever
> to work with. There is simply more cyclic potential.

But there is also more centrifugal force, making the paddles effectively
heavier......

However (from what I can remember of the maths!) one increase follows a square
law, and the other a cube law, which partly cancel out, resulting in a
following rate that is linearly proportional to the length: ie the longer the
flybar, the faster the following rate.

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Pete
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[Peter Christy]

Stephen Bell wrote:

> Why would it?The paddles are traveling faster and they have a longer lever
> to work with. There is simply more cyclic potential.

But there is also more centrifugal force, making the paddles effectively
heavier......

However (from what I can remember of the maths!) one increase follows a square
law, and the other a cube law, which partly cancel out, resulting in a
following rate that is linearly proportional to the length: ie the longer the
flybar, the faster the following rate.

--
Pete
christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net
(make the obvious amendments to reply!)

[Stephen Bell]

One keeps with gryoscopic laws and the other aerodynamic....just cause it
pulls more on the flybar doesn't mean the flybar teeter action reduced in
similar magnitudes to the aerodynamic (pro=teetering/following)gains.

Merry Christmas

Stephen
"Peter Christy" <christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Bell wrote:
>
> > Why would it?The paddles are traveling faster and they have a longer
lever
> > to work with. There is simply more cyclic potential.
>
> But there is also more centrifugal force, making the paddles effectively
> heavier......
>
> However (from what I can remember of the maths!) one increase follows a
square
> law, and the other a cube law, which partly cancel out, resulting in a
> following rate that is linearly proportional to the length: ie the longer
the
> flybar, the faster the following rate.
>
> --
> Pete
> christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net
> (make the obvious amendments to reply!)

[Stephen Bell]

One keeps with gryoscopic laws and the other aerodynamic....just cause it
pulls more on the flybar doesn't mean the flybar teeter action reduced in
similar magnitudes to the aerodynamic (pro=teetering/following)gains.

Merry Christmas

Stephen
"Peter Christy" <christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Bell wrote:
>
> > Why would it?The paddles are traveling faster and they have a longer
lever
> > to work with. There is simply more cyclic potential.
>
> But there is also more centrifugal force, making the paddles effectively
> heavier......
>
> However (from what I can remember of the maths!) one increase follows a
square
> law, and the other a cube law, which partly cancel out, resulting in a
> following rate that is linearly proportional to the length: ie the longer
the
> flybar, the faster the following rate.
>
> --
> Pete
> christy@NOattglobalSPAM.net
> (make the obvious amendments to reply!)