^^^Inverted Palm Size Heli Fun!^^^

[Mario]

:)

[Mario]

If you want opne of these let me know.

$10 Kit Comes with full size plan carbon and hardware.

Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[Mario]

Here are some more shots of similar models.

[fmhans]

If you have a video, I would consider this as an awesome project. In the past I have understood that "small" (significantly smaller than commercially available kitted) helis are "uncontrolled" (unable to maintain stable flight for the entire flight, while receiving significant input from the pilot), these are relative terms. My dragonfly is not small, yet remains uncontrolled due to my piloting skills, while able to fly quite well, if you consider hovering flying. Your posts contain small good-looking birds. I have not seen a video yet, in your posts or on your site, which looks controlled. Maybe I missed it if there is one there let me know.

Perhaps you have one that you can post.
Fritz Hansen

[edblad]

Hi
Exept the kit, what else do I need to get the heli in air?
How to pay the kit?

Alexander

[Philip Thulin]

If I buy the kit for 10$, will the shipping to sweden be like 20$ then?

/Philip

[Cheesehead]

Gee, I would like one of these. Gosh knows how I would be able to afford it, though!

[henke]

RC or rubber power? or both?

/H

[Mario]

Shipping is Global Priority Standard fee based on weight and size of envelope, box, If you order under 5 it will be shipped in a large envelope, if you order over 5 it will need a box. Weight still under 1 lb so shipping cost will still be low under $20, but best to send Email to MIADSGNS@COX.NET for actual shipping tarifs.

I typically sell MIA Palm Size Fun Fliers in 12 units per pack, special discount:
12 (1 doz) kits add 20% off.

Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[AIR MOVER]

Mario how about a vid so we can really see whats happening.. =)

[Jim McPherson]

That is not electric or RC is it?

-Jim

[Gerhard]

Hi Mario,

I cannot find any information on this "MIA Palm Size Fun Flier" on your web site. What is it, exactly?

regards,
Gerhard

[epilot]

Shouldn't a post like this be here:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=192

Why go through the trouble to have another forum created and then continue to use other forums as an advertising base for your products?

Michael

[samc99us]

From what I can tell, that is both electric and rc (how else would you perform inverted flight INSIDE). Now, with anything RC, the radio gear alone will probably total in the $200 range (with gyro, servos, reciver, speed controls), plus you still need motors, etc. Also, unless you start buying other parts (which really don't exist, for this small a bird) you will have to make extremly small heads (cp in this case), swashplate etc, which will be difficult and time consuming. If we could get these items prefabed, significant time savings would be invovled. And if you are like me and have never assembled a heli before (nor flown one, besides on sims) this would probably be EXTREMLY difficult. Now for those of you who know what they are doing, I see some significant FUN in your future :)

Sam

[RNAF]

The pictures are moving, I can't see how it looks like.
Post some more pictures and please answer this question:
Is it Radio Controlled?

Kind regards,
Dave

[Philip Thulin]

to me, the pictures seam to ilustrate a rubber powered notar heli, it looks like a huge fin and I cant see eny radiogeer or batteries...

Mario, could you pleas post a pic of the heli sitting still allso so we can see what we get for those 10$?
I´m interested if the shipping aint that too high, and perhaps if we in sweden can buy together and therefor get a lower shiping per unit :)

Best regards
/Philip

[Cheesehead]

If it ran off a cheap Didel pager motor and a big 10 farad cap (like the ones AeroNutz uses) you would have a nifty F/F copter.
So, what's this all about, anyway? R/C? Rubber? Electric? Gerbil-Power?

[Mario]

The thread is about a $10 simple 2 grm "Carbon and G10 parts mainly", extremely durable! Palm Size Flying Helicopter.

You can build as it comes as in the photos or build it as suggested for IR/RC, you can also add your own ingenuity to make it do whatever you want.

Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[demoman]

"Exept the kit, what else do I need to get the heli in air?"

"What is it, exactly?"

"That is not electric....is it?"

"Mario how about a vid so we can really see whats happening.."

Hello Mario!

A sampling of questions that have been generated by your new thread(s)....

Any chance on getting some direct answers? I would be interested in purchasing a kit from you, but the way you choose to present your wares brings out the skeptic in me.

Any chance of a shot of your new creation at rest?

Thanks,

demoman

[Philip Thulin]

So it is like a "do it as what you want it for" kind of kit? you buy the basic parts and build a micro around it, free flight or RC your own choice?

perhaps this can be fun to play with :)
are mainblades included?

Best regards
/Philip

[Mario]

demoman,

The kit is all you need to get it flying in the air the moment you get it and it will fly just like in the photos.

Beyond that, you will need to purchase very expensive equipment to make it full 4 channel RC and it will require you to make additional mechanical parts. I am working on some of these parts, as I have done with my Sub-Micro Helicopter Designer Series (on MIA web site), but these will be avalable in the near future.

If you price the RC 4 channel ultra micro equipment, for this size helicopter kit it would cost somewhere in the $500 plus range.

I feel, that some people in this forum can do the electronics themselves, at a much cheaper cost and MIA's very simple and inexpensive professionally quality (carbon, steel and bearings) Palm Size Fun Kit will give the backbone for such.

Just imagine! you can pay up to $10 for a single! tiny spur gear for indoor models, I am providing a "Complete flying Palm Size Fun kit" ! for the same price!.


Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[demoman]

Originally posted by Mario
demoman,

The kit is all you need to get it flying in the air the moment you get it and it will fly just like in the photos.

Beyond that, you will need to purchase very expensive equipment to make it full 4 channel RC and it will require you to make additional mechanical parts. I am working on some of these parts, as I have done with my Sub-Micro Helicopter Designer Series (on MIA web site), but these will be avalable in the near future.

If you price the RC 4 channel ultra micro equipment, for this size helicopter kit it would cost somewhere in the $500 plus range.

I feel, that some people in this forum can do the electronics themselves, at a much cheaper cost and MIA's very simple and inexpensive professionally quality (carbon, steel and bearings) Palm Size Fun Kit will give the backbone for such.

Just imagine! you can pay up to $10 for a single! tiny spur gear for indoor models, I am providing a "Complete flying Palm Size Fun kit" ! for the same price!.


Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

okay. then i am guessing (why do we have to play guessing games with you? The other vendors here don't require this) that it is rubber powered? Something along the lines of the Penni, perhaps?

After reading (lurking) for a couple of years and following several peoples' progress on true micro rc helis and planes, I well understand that tiny gear costs big $$. I look to you as a self-proclaimed guru on such matters, and entitled to a certain amount of condescension with neophytes such as myself.

I was mostly just hoping you could give out some details on EXACTLY what you are hawking here.

If I have to, I I'll just to wait until somebody ponies up the cash and reports back to the curious here.



Thanks for the reply,

Paul

[Cheesehead]

So, it's electric F/F?
Sounds great to me!
If someone could buy 10 so he could get the discount and sell them for 15.00 ea. including shipping (giving about a 4.00 profit on each sold) that would be great.
I would by one!
P.S. what would be needed to use a RFFS in this thing? micro actuators? a second integrated ESC?

[Mario]

Hello Paul,

I hope you can understand, I would rather have someone else purchase and talk about it, otherwise some people might think I am trying to push this product too hard.

As it is, I am very excited because this litte flying Palm Size Fun heli has all the basic ingredients for a supper simple and lightweight fully controllable RC heli.

My goal with this particular kit is to give all those that want a "working " starting point something without them having to spend too much time or money.

Regards,

Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[Harry Mueller]

Come on guys..you're being reeled in by a master.

What would you expect for $10, perhaps a prop on a stick with a rubber band.

My guess is that it would fly inverted if you released it upside down...and only once.

[epilot]

It should be named the "Hype Fly"(TM) :D

Michael

[demoman]

"I hope you can understand, I would rather have someone else purchase and talk about it, otherwise some people might think I am trying to push this product too hard. "

Mario,

I can well appreciate this. But in light of the fact you have been teasing the members here with 'free' plans for several weeks (with a similar lack of details), and now a couple of days with this new 'offer'....it is hard to see your actions as anything other than odd.

I can also appreciate the need to keep secrets, particularly when you are on the cutting edge of new and small.

But why taunt people with fuzzy, blurry images, hazy descriptions, and smug proclamations? Is it merely to get our attention?

Also, I have no doubt that if you wanted a purchaser to be the first to talk about this new FF to 4channel wonder, you no doubt could have arranged just that (via your yahoo group, your vendor forum, the micro heli forum, here, etc.)

I gotta say, compared to the recent 6.9 g flying robots thread (and the attendent generous sharing of information)--did you happen to catch it?--this one is pretty murky even by your standards.

I'm not sure if you realize it, but of the literally dozens of vendors, big and small, that grace these forums with both rare and regular frequencies, you stand above them all for studied evasiveness.

best of luck in your business,

Paul

[demoman]

"Come on guys..you're being reeled in by a master."

Ya gotta admit, for sheer entertainment value (comedy genre) you could do worse than following Mario's contributions to these pages.

[Steve Wrona]

Originally posted by Mario
demoman,

The kit is all you need to get it flying in the air the moment you get it and it will fly just like in the photos.

Beyond that, you will need to purchase very expensive equipment to make it full 4 channel RC and it will require you to make additional mechanical parts. I am working on some of these parts, as I have done with my Sub-Micro Helicopter Designer Series (on MIA web site), but these will be avalable in the near future.

If you price the RC 4 channel ultra micro equipment, for this size helicopter kit it would cost somewhere in the $500 plus range.

I feel, that some people in this forum can do the electronics themselves, at a much cheaper cost and MIA's very simple and inexpensive professionally quality (carbon, steel and bearings) Palm Size Fun Kit will give the backbone for such.

Just imagine! you can pay up to $10 for a single! tiny spur gear for indoor models, I am providing a "Complete flying Palm Size Fun kit" ! for the same price!.


Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

kit is all you need to get it flying in the air the moment you get it and it will fly just like in the photos.

Beyond that, you will need to purchase very expensive equipment to make it full 4 channel RC and it will require you to make additional mechanical parts.

I am providing a "Complete flying Palm Size Fun kit" ! for the same price!.

Mario,
I see you a visionary in micro-helis and marvel at your developments.

From one trader to another, precisely/accurately describe what you sell and sell exactly what you're describing.

I think there are more than a few heliholics out there who are really jazzed about this "Palm Size Fun kit" while all along building up many, many questions regarding just what it is that you are offering. Im getting a "Segway" feeling: That two-wheeled stand-up-electric-scooter thing that was supposed to revolutionize how the common man commutes: "Wow" That is sooo cool But, what the hell is it exactly?"

There seem to be alot of people looking at your threads popeyed and drooling lusting after a "Palm Size Fun kit" but want to know more about what they are getting for their $10. Even though it's "only" $10, I would quite reticent about making payment on something I wasnt completely confident in.

A suggestion made with respect: Why not start a thread called "Exploring the MIA Palm Size Fun kit Heli" and from rotor to skids describe the kit and it's parts/components and options, the parts that have to be machined, the parts that you are developing, if the RFFS Micro System is suitable for control (Have you approached DWE about the development of an RFFS unit specifically for the Palm Size Fun kit?), everything that potential customers need to know.

Please don't make a common mistake and ASSUME that the people you are presenting to know all the technical jive that leads up to your product. My wife hits me with this from time to time:
"Baby? Could you hand me that CirClip fitting tool?"
"The what?"
"The CirClip fitting tool. It looks like a pair of needle nose pliers with 2 hooked prongs on the end?"
"What are you talking about?"
"The thing I use to put the CirClips on the ends of the prop shafts on those little GWS gearboxes."
"SPEAK ENGLISH YOU PLANE GEEK!"
"That tool that I keep throwing at the wall when those tiny black clips go pinging across the room."
"Oh, THAT thing. Why didn't you just say that in the first place."

Not to say that everybody who reads your posts is thick in the head, but, there are some experienced heliheads here who have some pretty good questions.

I am sooo NOT into helis, BUT, things like this really get the latent Mr Wizard/engineer/technogeek in me revved up! I would like to know more but there are just too many gray area and vaguenesses in what is being described.

Again, I say all this with much respect! Just, take some time to give a detailed description of this neat bit of kit. Tell us a bit more about what it is that you are offering.

Steve

[johnbyrne]

What happened to the FREE plans?

[epilot]

I give to you the amazing new Hot Air powered control line helicopter: "The Hype Fly" (TM, C and pat. pending). This innovative design has been refined over the years and I am now happy to announce that kits will be available soon for $20 (without candle and nylon string). You can build this kit in just seconds and it will fly for several hours. Videos will be available on my website soon. Only available in orange.

Michael

[Pjotrrr]

Agree, it's all about hot air :)

[EricCartman]

yup

[Harry Mueller]

At least the picture is clear....

[EricCartman]

how much extra for the candle and string(im guessing $500)

[ginsu1797]

LOL, what a ding a ling.

[Harry Mueller]

And it also flies inverted....

[RC_AV8R_181]

Lol epilot :) good one.
Guys, read the following posts, they will probably answer most of your q's.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178227
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175690
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176975
I think that's all...
And just to clarify, this is IR/RC.
Ben

[Matthew Cotten]

OH BOY,I usualy don't laugh out loud when I,m just sitin' here looking at words and pictures but,that candle and prop thing almost got me on the ground.I'm a little bit happier and light harted,thanks guys:)OH BOY.Matt

[EricCartman]

wow inverted!how do you stiffen the string and get the flame like that!

[EricCartman]

i just bought one and wow!it can do 3d acrobatics and doesnt lose lift when going sideways!(the candle is used to control it)

[darmar]

Mario,
why don't you open up new thread like any other seller does on this forum.

it's called Building of XXXXX heli thread with photos ,detailes and also bugs and fixes including real video file of the flying thing, not some silent movie dating before WW 2.

I think I DON'T ASK FOR IMPOSSIBLE since this has been well known method of contributing to this hobby with ideas and development and at the same time profit for you.

You have to earn that profit with real thing, not brainwash us with thread titles, free stuff and discounts (we got enough of that in ordinary life).

But my personal opinion of your presence on these forums is that you are obsessed with being NUMERO 1 in rc Toe sized heli world and many would agree with me that you are not with atitude like that.

Some of your stuff is good no doubt but at the same time other products of yours are either incomplete or ruined by your inputs here in the forums.
End of story.

Come down to the ground , relax and think about it in real time...

Being INCOMPLETE, same as smoking but NOT INHALING. Got it now...

darmar

[AIR MOVER]

OMGGGGG TOOOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[darmar]

epilot
Finally. It was abut time.

how about free plans but in blue. Orange only is getting out of style. Also I think you might get in trouble with orange rotary wing , it's been pattented by some taivanese company called BWS or JWS.

[edblad]

Philip
I live in Sweden to, Enköping, not far from Stockholm. We have talked a bit before if you remember. Maybe we can share the shipping?

Alexander

[EricCartman]

i painted mine black.i found gws props are good replacement props

[Philip Thulin]

Originally posted by edblad
Philip
I live in Sweden to, Enköping, not far from Stockholm. We have talked a bit before if you remember. Maybe we can share the shipping?

Alexander

Sure, I live in Ljungby (småland) nowdays but sure, we can share shipping, I might give it a try and see what it is, but first I´d like Mario to answer what Demoman asked befor:

"What is it, exactly?"

"Mario how about a vid so we can really see whats happening.."

and from my side...
Mario, you say: #"The thread is about a $10 simple 2 grm "Carbon and G10 parts mainly"#

yes, so we figure the material is this, but what exactly are you selling?
Is there a complete rotorhead suitable for RC conversion or do we have to rebuild the whole thing to fit it with for example an RFFS-200 (4 ch...), simply, what does the kit include? is it just some cf rods and a plan or is there actual parts like G10 or cf mainframe, complete rotorhead, geers, blades etc etc...
What exactly do we get for 10$?

Kind regards
/Philip

[edblad]

Hi
I dont think that would be any cheaper becouse the kit has a small weight anyway. So I ordered one. Sorry!

Alexander

[Gerhard]

Hi Alexander,

when you receive yours, would you be so kind and describe exactly what you got, perhaps even take a picture of the kit content. I am very interested, but Mario won't tell us what he is selling.
Thank you for taking the risk of finding out what it is for the rest of us.

regards,
gerhard

[Thatovalguy]

Well he is smart, if you don't know what your getting you can't complain. :D

Actually there is alot of great info being put forth with all the threads he started on this subject. If he can't build something that flys from all this he's doing something wrong.

[epilot]

Why anyone would buy something they don't know what is is beyond me. Hats off to the marketing skill involved in that.

I am now able to offer a deluxe package including a Christmas candle (only used a little bit) and a length of nylon string. Kits will be packed and shipped after Christmas. Please place your orders now.

Michael

[clipclop]

Ho Ho Ho
lol michael

[edblad]

Hi
Yes, I am going to describe it and put some pictures here.

Alexander

[Matthew Cotten]

How did you order "it",I can't find anything on marios site.Matt

[edblad]

I sent him a mail. Click on "contact us" on the left at the page.
Alexander

[Matthew Cotten]

Thank you Alex.Matt

[afabio]

Another fine product from the P.T. Barnum of the RC heli industry.

[Matthew Cotten]

I'm not ordering untill I see Alex's kit in pictures Afabio and thanks Alex for being the guinne pig for all of us.Matt

[ginsu1797]

PT Barnum, I was thinking more of slim shady. LOL
Btw I have a little orange 3x2 prop, could I make in to a pinky size micro heli?

Here's the real dealProxflyer (http://www.proxflyer.com/) and Pixeletto (http://pixelito.reference.be/)
These guys are a class act, if only everyone were like that, sigh...

[Matthew Cotten]

got my kit today,looks very promising:D :D :D !!!

[edblad]

Is it a joke or is it really the kit?

Alexander

[echassin]

This has all the trappings of smoke and mirrors, and possibly a ripoff scam.
I've not posted near as much as Mario, so for all I know he is an upstanding citizen.
However, after what I just experienced in this thread, it appears to me Mario is not a straight shooter, so I will likely not bother to read his posts in the future, let alone trust anything he sells.

I may be crude, but I do not try to be rude, and simply make clear what I think. Good or bad, that is respect.

[Matthew Cotten]

Sorry Alexander,just a joke.Really want to see what the REAL kit looks like when you get it.Matt.

[edblad]

Mario
Does the kit has a manual and can it be flown inverted?
By the way have you got my order?

Alexander

[Matthew Cotten]

I think we upset him but,non of this would have happened if he were to be upfront with us and show the "kit" he talks about.PLEASE show us the kit Mario.PLease.Matt

[RC_AV8R_181]

What's this? All i'm seeing is 5 pages of spam, flaming, and blasts on Mario. I know that we've all worked our selves up about how he keeps coming up short with his offers, but now that he has kept his word, does that mean that we have to try to prove that he still has nothing? If you don't think that this is the real thing, then fine, you don't have to but really, must you make everyone else try to feel the same? Mario has put out some fairly nice products, like the bumblebee, so we know that he is not just a scam artist. Lets just chill and see if this is a viable product or not, and if this is just another unkept promise, you can all berate me then. But let's just see what this is first, shall we? I hope Mario hasn't been scared away by all the negativity in his thread...
Ben

[Matthew Cotten]

Sorry Ben,this is modern day maddness to not take the 30 seconds and show a picture.I mean really!!!

[Philip Thulin]

I ordered 3 of these kits today, we´ll see what they look like, I´ll do what Alexander will and post some pics when/if the kit arives.

kind regards
/Philip

[demoman]

"but now that he has kept his word"

I think you are being too kind.

Considering that he spent the last couple of weeks promising a 'free' plan that has now been 'bundled' with an undefined $10 kit, coupled with the fact that he refused to answer even the simplest questions as to what the $10 will buy ya....

I'd say the abuse he has stirred up has been exceedingly gentle.

To keep his word would be to post the plans. Free.

It will be interesting to see the results of those that have faith enough in the man to order the kits blind.

If he cared about his business reputation, he wouldn't get himself into these comedies to begin with. Easily avoided, as demonstrated by any number of vendors who represent themselves here. Mario stands alone as the object of scorn...should be no surprise to anyone who follows his self-created drama.

He may be a sub-micro heli genius (video?) but if this is the case he would do well to let someone else handle the MIA p.r.

[RC_AV8R_181]

Yes, I definetely agree that he should show a few more pictures... Mario? :)
Ben

[ihug007]

You guys are wasting your time if you think Mario is going to respond with direct answers to any of these questions. Take a look at the other threads he posts in where he avoids every question that will make him, his products, or his work ethic look bad.

To me, Alexander et al. are the real micro heli masters - they make the initial discoveries and inventions. To his credit, Mario has recognised a good marketing niche in selling reduced-size helis made with conventional technology. Mario is not an innovator in this field and has seldom developed new technologies or methodologies, unlike Alexander or Petter who are the real innovators and pioneers.

All businesses exist to make money and that's fine - but Mario's claims about how he invented everything or was the first for this or that are generally false, and frankly I’m sick of reading about it. I'm sick of reading Mario's vague postings about a new palm size heli that works in a special way (e.g. no swash plate) - then proceed to give no details about it until the thread has become many pages long and everyone has collectively discovered how to make it work and built semi-working models - and then Mario will chime in at the very end and say 'yes, that's right, that's how my heli works' and bingo, a few months later he's claiming it's his and it's off to market.

Doesn't anyone else see this? Argh!

[epilot]

It would be difficult to make any claims on the actuator controlled heli though - there are already several patents on that and none of them are Marios.

Michael

[Mario]

Originally posted by edblad
Mario
Does the kit has a manual and can it be flown inverted?
By the way have you got my order?

Alexander

Yes the kit will fly inverted, just like one of the photos I posted, I got your order and of other folks over his weekend, these will be processesed on Monday.

Bes Regards,

Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[echassin]

See?
Yet another post (#73) by Mario extolling his virtues, completely disregarding everyone's doubts/concerns, and providing no useful information with which we can judge the merits of his claims, or PROOF of his claims via video.

If one refuses to answer questions in a forthright manner, it makes it clear there is something to hide (in this case smoke and mirrors). This is a form of dishonesty.

Now I'm following this thread curious to know if he will be blackballed off RC Groups altogether (as he should be). IMHO, his behavior is worse than someone who uses swearwords or insults (at least they're honest!)

[Gordon Johnson]

One term says it all: Deja Vu

Gordon

[echassin]

Gordon:
Are you serious????
This has happened before???
Has he ripped anybody off?
What is being done?
I reported this to the moderator (you?). Do moderators have the power to do anything substantial?

I'm relatively new to the computer, but have really latched onto this forum. It has advanced me much faster than figuring stuff out on my own, etc...

There's nothing wrong with making an honest buck here, but this smells like fraud.

Even from a more practical point of view, one's reputation takes a lifetime to build, why risk destroying it in such a public way???

[epilot]

I don't know if Mario has ripped off anyone, but I have seen this kind of thread has occured over and over again since I first joined the forum. A few times it has gotten really ugly. MIA Designs is an Ezone sponsor but I do not think it buys Mario the right to use so many of the forums here for his advertising stunts and frankly I think the Ezone/RCGroups owners should consider whether they want/need a customer like this. The moderators can only take limited action so you probably need to contact Jim Bourke on the matter.

Michael

PS: Mario has some strange ideas about other people:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1627772#post1627772

[Gordon Johnson]

Deja Vu refers to threads with fuzzy pictures, lack of information, products that may or may not exist, lots of people asking for more information, Mario acting like he never sees those posts, and on and on. There is a Bill Murray movie, Groundhog Day, where he is doomed to repeat the same day (Groundhog Day) over and over. That's the feeling many of us get with each one of these threads.

Gordon

[gotak]

No ****. I am concidering getting that G10 addon frame for the HB but it wasn't in stock until now but it was posted here by mario for ages.

I think he should hire someone to update his website so it actualy works and put proper info there and better yet make ti so people can actually order his stuff off his website.

Concidering his business style i see now reason that would be a bad thingf for him and his "dealers" most of his customers i bet buy off the internet..

[afabio]

All those thinking of buying this kit, ask yourself this question:

If Mario is this dodgy about questions BEFORE he has your money, how much support will you recieve AFTER he has your money?

-Adam

[Philip Thulin]

Well, of what I´ve heard erlier Mario is ok when it comes to shiping things once they are payed (correct me if I´m wrong), so I guess I will recieve these 3 kits, if not I dunno what to do though...

I´ll wait and see how this works out.

Kind regards
/Philip

[Cracked!]

Lets see some close up shots Mario! I dont want to order a product unless I see some detailed pictures!

Steve

[epilot]

Steve, you stand a better chance beliveing in Santa Claus ;)

Michael

[RNAF]

I thought Mario changed, Comments Removed

No personal attacks

FB

[lttakas]

how can i buy one will you take paypal?

[Eco8gator]

Hello

Please post pics/vids(high quality ones) and explain how this thing works. If you do this I guarentee you that 100% of the people giving you crap will get off your back, but until then there are just a bunch of unanswered questions and the crap will continue to flow...

Carlo

[lttakas]

yes please.

[Mario]

Hi folks,

The kits have begun shipping. I hope to supplement the intial phtos with better close ups and a video after the holidays unless some folks beat me to it.


Best Regards, and Happy Holidays,

Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[lttakas]

thanks mario

[Philip Thulin]

Thanks Mario!

Please mail me about how much I should pay you, and where to send payment.

Kind regards
/Philip

[epilot]

Originally posted by Eco8gator
.... If you do this I guarentee you that 100% of the people giving you crap will get off your back....

Well, maybe only 99% :D

Michael

[lttakas]

epilot get off Mario's back man!go and do soemthing else if he does not want to give any more info out about the heli thats his problem.If there is not going to be more info on it people are not going to buy his kit.

NO personal attacks or name calling. FB

[Bud Morrison]

Hah Imma order me one. For 10 bucks its still cheaper then the Ackus Peck rubber powered Penni heli :) I have a penni heli its a blast to toy with. Maybe I'll get two.


Link to penni heli
http://www.peck-polymers.com/html/kits/ackuskits.htm

[Mario]

Please post pics/vids(high quality ones) and explain how this thing works as Alaxander has done with his Pixelito.

Alexander stuff is more prototypes, not for sale, clearly stated in his site. We are also in totally different classes since he doesn't manufacture his own products for sale direct to the public.

Concienciously, it is sometimes difficcult to make this differentiation when we all talk tiny helis, in a general sence, but if we look accros the recent slew of Posts regarding really tiny helis we can see that there are quite some differences, be in style, use of equipment and creative various ways of accomplishing such, some simple some complex.

I hope you folks can give some of us a little room with your reponses, and maybe Santa will grant those better wishes.

Kind Regards and Happy Holidays,

Mario I. Arguello
www.micro-flight.com

[epilot]

Ittakas, I was was being mean and was out of line here. Sorry, I'll lay off now.

Michael

[reznikvova]

Ario,
I will order one, I just want to know what exaclt the kit consists of. You say Ill be able to fly it as soon as I get it, ok then Ill take it. Rubberband powered.

[Dave Lofthouse]

It takes a big man..........

[Fred Bronk]

Comments are fine but no personal attacks or name calling.

Please do business with email or PM, not in this forum.

Thanks!

[Thatovalguy]

Mario could you even tell us just one little thing like what turns the blades of your kit!!!!!!!!

[Matthew Cotten]

Or even are there blades that come with it.Do we widdle popsicle sticks and make our own?