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leccyflyer
Dec 10, 2003, 11:51 AM
Greetings and welcome to the new RC Groups Combat forum.
The topic for the forum is combat planes and combat-related discussion, including combat safety and combat strategies. All power types that may be used in combat flying are included namely gas, glow, electric and slope.
The forum will remain on a trial basis under this Trial Forums tab for 30 days, during which the content and traffic will be monitored to see if the forum is a success. If that is the case then the forum will be made permanent under the Aircraft General tab, where it may be seen throughout the entire website.
So enjoy the new forum, participate and discuss and lets make it a big success.
Thanks
Brian
Ben Morrow
Dec 10, 2003, 04:24 PM
Brian,
I would just like to say Thank You for starting this thread! Lots of folks that love combat out in R/C world and I think will grow even more with the help of RC Groups. I've been flying R/C Combat for going on 13 years now and enjoy it more every year! It's a great sport and you'll meet some of the best folks a person could ask for. We're more like a big family than anything else. If anyone has any questions about combat please fire away or give us a visit at www.rccombat.com
Thanks again,
Ben
boiler
Dec 10, 2003, 10:41 PM
rc combat rocks. I flew u control combat back in the 60's and then left flying to raise a family. I started flying rc last year and rc combat this year. I haven't had this much fun since I was in high school.
leccyflyer
Jan 14, 2004, 04:25 PM
Gents
The 30 days review period for the forum in the trial area has now passed and to be honest the forum isn't generating the sort of traffic that we'd expect to enable it to go into the mainstream site under our procedure for new forums.
It's been decided to leave it a little longer, because there are fairly regular posts being made, just not very many of them. When the forum was reviewed there were only 18 threads that had been started in the month the forum was open.
Let's see if the combat flyers on here can raise the interest level and get some discussion going to make this forum a success.
Brian
ED B
Jan 14, 2004, 11:19 PM
Brian,
Perhaps the time of year has something to do with the low number of posts and responses. I would expect things to pick up in the spring.
Ed
rdc767
Jan 18, 2004, 12:07 AM
I wish this forum would succeed. It much more user friendly rcu.
Ron
jaison
Feb 05, 2004, 09:00 PM
I've just found this RC Group site an think its a great idea and place to find information and talk with other similarly interested people.
I have just entered the hobby of RC plans and was hoping I could get some advice.
I am currently looking at building a flying wing and as such am looking for easy to follow plans.
Can anyone point me in the right direction ?
PS I hope this is the right forum for this Submission.
Ben Morrow
Feb 05, 2004, 09:35 PM
Jaison,
You're in the right place! "Combat spoken Here!" There are lots of good planes for combat on the market today.. The "Wing you're talking about is a fine and very competive airframe!! A Guy named Lee Liddle down in Texas has about the best plane (Wing) going these days and at a fair price... Go to www.rccombat.com and look for a post by Lee Liddle on the forum and his web site will be at the bottom of each post..
Hope this helps a little and WELCOME to the most fun you can have with a transmitter in your hand! R/C Combat!
Ben
jaison
Feb 05, 2004, 09:55 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome and advice Ben.
I’m very exited about the idea of combat flying, it sound like a lot of fun and a great test of skill in flying and building your craft.
I should ask if there are many people doing this in Melbourne Australia ?
I live very close to the Caufield Race Trak, which I believe has a RC club for electric only.
Thanks once again Ben, I’ll have a look at the site you suggested.
Regards Jaison.
Ben Morrow
Feb 05, 2004, 10:04 PM
Jaison,
No problem, just hope it helps a little.. YES there are some folks in Australia that fly combat. Here's another site that folks from your neck of the woods visit and I'm sure can help too! www.screamingeaglerc.com
Just keep looking and you'll find someone to chase ribbon's with you! Just too much fun!
Ben Morrow
Down Home R/C
www.downhomerc.com
DEF
Feb 06, 2004, 09:53 PM
Jaison
Try this site.
http://www.dwebdev.com/combat/phpBB2/index.php
clipclop
Feb 08, 2004, 03:25 AM
I would like to see a set of design rules for R/C combat ie the specks for each class
Stewart
clipclop
Feb 08, 2004, 03:37 AM
I built this R/C converted control line combat wing for my son a couple yrs ago it even survived a radio failue -battery lead came unpluged , with no damage didnt even break the prop . it came doun 1/2 throttle in a flat spin spiral .
Some specks :- 44" span , 13" prop to tail , 23oz ready to fly all balsa structure Magnum 15 with 8x4 prop this thing is seriously fast .
Stewart
LouMelancon
Feb 08, 2004, 09:47 AM
Clip,
Nice looking plane. The classes of US RC Combat and engine sizes can be found at www.rccombat.com which is the web site of the Radio Control Combat Association.
The three most popular US classes are:
1. Open B, up to .30 engine, max weight 3.5lbs
2. Scale 2610, up to .26 engines, 1/12th scale, 3.5 lbs max
3. Slow and Survivable (SSC), up to .15, limited to under $60 US advertised price, minimum weight of 2.5lbs, and spec prop with rpm limits.
There is a pretty active combat contingent in western Australia
watnsee
Feb 13, 2004, 10:28 PM
what a hot rod hell raiser!!!!
skysthelimit
Feb 13, 2004, 11:45 PM
Right now i fly 3d airplanes and arin the electrics.I was wanting to get into combat flying.How can I go about doing this.What plane would I need.
Thanks
sheepy
Feb 14, 2004, 02:10 PM
As far as organized combat ala RCCA or AMA, I have never seen electrics fly combat. There is some interest starting for electrics though. I am working on an Avenger 972s from teamseaholm.com using a mega22/10/10 with 10 cbp1400 mah bats and a phoenix 35. This is an experiment to see if electrics might fit into the RCCA SSC class of combat. Check out www.rccombat.com/rcca.asp for more info on RCCA combat. I have heard of full contact combat being flown with flying wings, but have never witnessed it.
watnsee
Feb 14, 2004, 03:22 PM
please post a reply if you plan on going to the ama nats in july.
lets make it a record. I would like to see the top dollar price droped in ssc class. Whats the point , the rpm limmit, and the
$100 cliamers? somebody wants to use a motor that costs $200.
I'm sure somebody would love to claim it!!!
sheepy
Feb 15, 2004, 11:19 AM
watnsee, I might make it with my son. Both of us will fly open b if we make it. There is RCCA class C combat in smithville mo(just north of kansas city) june 12. Most of the pilots will probably be flying b ships, with some locals flying up to .47's. Where is festus?
watnsee
Feb 15, 2004, 06:15 PM
:D
Festus is about 40 miles south of St. Louis. what kinda power are you using? if you dont mind. we are trying novarossis'.
sheepy
Feb 16, 2004, 07:21 AM
I have 3 novarossi .21's, and 2 irvine .25's. The irvines are more powerful with the ultrathrust muffler, but are very heavy compared to the novarossi. On the novarossi's, I am running the kentucky mousse can pipe, and get 18k static on the ground with ma 9x4 props. They run very reliably. I have not had to land prematurely on combat due to engine problems. I have also flown MVVS .26's which run very good, but can be finickey. The Norvel .25 can run good too, but reliability is worse than the MVVS.
watnsee
Feb 16, 2004, 05:25 PM
Sheepy, try a mousse can on the novva rossi?
sheepy
Feb 16, 2004, 06:06 PM
The mousse can works fine on the novarossi. With the muffler supplied by planet hobby, performance was mediocre at best. Open exhaust was great, but noise was brutal. with the novarossi header and MCP, performance was just as good with open exhaust, but my ears weren't ringing for days afterward. I have used the planet hobby header pipe into the mousse can, and it works great. Another work around is to use the mcp and a 1/2 inch copper elbow to connect the two. One other thing I am looking at is to use the mvvs pipe. It looks like it will work fine. What are you running on your novarossis'? What rpm and how is reliability? what fuel, glow plugs, mufflers etc. I am using sig intimidator fuel 11% castor synthetic, 20%nitro. ma 9x4. I am very pleased with the novarossi. Too bad it isn't offered in a .25 to .30 size.
watnsee
Feb 16, 2004, 08:20 PM
:D
I used air conditioning lines from a/c condensers they have a nice radius and are light. salvege yards are resonable. A 5oz mousse can. the tube needs to go in about 1.5 to 2 inches Im getting about 19000 on m/a 9-4. Imake my own fuel. It's 18%oil and
20% of that is castor. 5% to 10% nitro depending on weather. Ihave run the motor on 10% oil but it did not make any difference,so why take the chance? this weekend im gonna try a 10-3 10-4 m/a
sheepy
Feb 16, 2004, 09:37 PM
Do you have any pics of your setup? Is there a hardware store equivalent of the condensor pipe?
watnsee
Feb 17, 2004, 08:34 PM
sheepy, Im not aware of any thing ,ill try to get a pic on soon . I have a drawing too.
oldpilot
Jul 31, 2004, 07:41 AM
DRAT. Just found this thread --and I parted with my RpVi f-21 Predator this morning. It is the undisputed King of Slope Combat but unfortunately it is no longer in production.
SLOPE COMBAT HAS LAPSED SOME HERE DUE TO THE WESTERLY WINTER WINDS, BUT IT WILL PICK UP AGAIN IN ANOTHER MONTHS TIME.
CHEERS. PATRICK. :cool: :) :D
rchawks
Jun 26, 2005, 11:34 PM
When I lived in Corpus Christi Tx slope combat planes were just coming out by Daves aircraft works. There was three or four diff. aircraft, a P-51, zero, couple of german planes. I was very impressed. I saw a friend of mine crash into a park bench full speed. He picked up the airplane and threw it back into the air. No apparent damage, I thought to myself, man I've got to have one of those. Bought two of them but was in the middle of moving to the midwest and never finished them. I think to generate interest in this forum you should make several videos and crashes (midairs) flying immediatly after the crash to show how durable they are. That hooks a person everytime. Put some cameras on your planes and show it under the AP section. Show video footage under the crash section. Under the construction section talk about the reinforcing tape and glue. Put in something under the foamies. This is such a very fun sport using these planes.
rchawks
Jun 28, 2005, 10:28 PM
I really miss slope soaring. I would hate to see this forum close due to lack of threads. I never got to fly combat and man it looked like it would be a blast! Here in the Midwest we have hills but they are covered with trees and turbulance. I've finally have given up on ever finding a local spot to fly from here. It's been 8 yrs since I moved back here and been unable to slope. I envy the rest of you that have the flying sites to go to. I hope you realize how really lucky you are!
rarebearfan77
Oct 14, 2005, 11:10 PM
I just started flying in our club open combat. Anything as long as it is using a motor smaller than a 50. I flew against coro planes, spads, and battle floyds. My ship was a Sig Fazer. They all told me that it wouldn't last being its all balsa. It survived 3 mid airs but the fourth was terminal. Here are the pics. I am looking forward to next year.
Ambassador
Nov 08, 2005, 11:14 PM
I am new to RC aircraft and was wondering if in combat it is advantageous to have the engine in the rear of the plane to protect it from crash damage.
Matthew
spadhunter
Nov 12, 2005, 11:22 PM
Ambassador,
I don't know of any combat flyers with the engine mounted in the rear.
It would be harder to do, and streamer cuts often come as a result of the propeller slicing the streamer.
Crashes into the ground usually don't hurt the engine. Ocasionally a mid-air will damage one, but it's not real common.
Combat is a alot of fun. It's a great bunch of guys who will always help you along, and the flying is very exciting!
The most popular RCCA class is Slow Survivable Combat (SSC). It's meant to reduce damage over other classes with tougher planes and speeds a little slower than the Open classes.
Once you're competent with a trainer-type aircraft, the best thing to do is get a dedicated combat airframe. They are specially engineered from tough materials so that they hold up well in mid-airs, which happen often in combat.
Such a design is available at www.TreneffRC.com .
JetStreamJoe
Feb 09, 2006, 09:16 PM
Combats huge on the Western Slope, Colorado
Slopers number near 20 with as many as 10 combat gliders in the air on any given weekend. Terrain makes recovery easy so kills are hard to come by.
The foamie chevron wings are nearly indestructable
Im subscribed
Rick
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