View Full Version : Where did Horrace go?
easytiger
Oct 07, 2003, 10:28 PM
I was reading a Model Aviation issue from 1980. According to the minutes of the Executive Council, he walked out in the middle of the EC meeting, leaving all the other VPs to take care of business for the rest of the night.
Then he made up an angry petition for members to sign, calling for another meeting, and published it in his column in MA. I don't think he got the 4000 signatures required to have another meeting!
Who was there at the meeting that Horrace walked out of? Did anybody see the scene? I don't recall a simlar incident in EC history, where someone does not get their way and walks out, before business is finished...
Hossfly
Oct 07, 2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by easytiger
I was reading a Model Aviation issue from 1980. According to the minutes of the Executive Council, he walked out in the middle of the EC meeting, leaving all the other VPs to take care of business for the rest of the night.
Then he made up an angry petition for members to sign, calling for another meeting, and published it in his column in MA. I don't think he got the 4000 signatures required to have another meeting!
Who was there at the meeting that Horrace walked out of? Did anybody see the scene? I don't recall a simlar incident in EC history, where someone does not get their way and walks out, before business is finished...
I was there until I left? :D
I had to leave a couple meetings so as to get on a flight to go home because I had a trip the next day. There were just times when I could not adjust the United Airline's Pilot Flight Schedules simply to assist the AMA's EC schedule.:p
Yep. et, you are correct about a meeting. The AMA Bylaws, Article VIII, Section 3 states the requirements for a regular membership meeting (not an EC mtg., but a membership mtg.) that is to be announced in the AMA official publication 45 days prior to the meeting date. Try finding an announcement for a membership meeting within that time-frame, back in one of those official publications.
OTOH NOW LOOK ON PG. 6 OF THE November '03 ISSUE OF MA AND FIND THAT A NUMBER OF MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS ARE ALREADY ANNOUNCED FOR 2004.
Seeds had to be planted way back then to obtain crops much later. I still see a need for some tilling.
I was not interested in going for 4000 signatures (5% of the membership required) as I MADE a point and things started to improve. Just one more point on how poorly JW did his job, and How WELL he controlled the EC members except for ME. He did have a problem there, but OTOH he held all the aces back in those days. He won, but eventually he lost.
Perhaps you should quit playing like the LA Times. You and a few others certainly are grasping for straws. :p
JR kept pulling the rope and on that other place he finally hung himself big time.
I have another spool. Keep pulling.
Horrace
easytiger
Oct 08, 2003, 08:59 AM
"Originally posted by Hossfly
I had to leave a couple meetings so as to get on a flight to go home because I had a trip the next day. There were just times when I could not adjust the United Airline's Pilot Flight Schedules simply to assist the AMA's EC schedule.:p "
I SEE. It was not a fight or anything like that? Even though an angry petition emerged immediately afterwards? You sure about this, horrace? Most of the EC members who were at that meeting are still around, would not be that hard to get in touch with them.
Or...
You just did not want to do the work of the EC? FOUR days out of 365 was too much for you. You wanted to cut it down to TWO , according to what you wrote back then. Would you have skipped out early out of THOSE days, too?
Seems like making four meetings a year is not THAT big a commitment. But you did not do it.
"Yep. et, you are correct about a meeting. The AMA Bylaws, Article VIII, Section 3 states the requirements for a regular membership meeting (not an EC mtg., but a membership mtg.) that is to be announced in the AMA official publication 45 days prior to the meeting date. Try finding an announcement for a membership meeting within that time-frame, back in one of those official publications.
OTOH NOW LOOK ON PG. 6 OF THE November '03 ISSUE OF MA AND FIND THAT A NUMBER OF MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS ARE ALREADY ANNOUNCED FOR 2004.
Seeds had to be planted way back then to obtain crops much later. I still see a need for some tilling."
Uhhhhh, NO. Are you claiming to have planted the seeds for the idea of a membership meeting? The membership meetings which have been held since the Forties? What are you TALKING about?
What YOU wanted was a special EC meeting to adress the thirteen points of your petition that you published after breaking with the EC. Don't make me drag out that magazine and publish it here.
"I was not interested in going for 4000 signatures (5% of the membership required) as I MADE a point and things started to improve. "
Either your memory is very foggy, or you are just lying. The petition is very clear as to your objectives.
"Just one more point on how poorly JW did his job, and How WELL he controlled the EC members except for ME. He did have a problem there, but OTOH he held all the aces back in those days. He won, but eventually he lost."
John Worth guided the AMA through some very rough times. From 20,000 members to 70,000, through a recession, from renting an office to owning a building. He also bought the magazine(still controversial).
I'd say his contributions, versus yours, well...
"Perhaps you should quit playing like the LA Times. "
Please clarify that statement.
"You and a few others certainly are grasping for straws. :p"
And pulling up gold! I mean, people are really fascinated to hear the true story of Horrace Versus the Universe. Many did not know about the fact that you had serious problems in your previous tenure, about your fighting with the rest of the EC, about your leaving early during meetings, about your quitting in mid-term. People REALLY are interested.
"JR kept pulling the rope and on that other place he finally hung himself big time.
I have another spool. Keep pulling.""
Really? Print it here. I'd like to see where he "hung himself".
Horrace [/B][/QUOTE]
ICTHRMLS
Oct 08, 2003, 11:01 AM
With all due respect Mr. Cain.... maybe you should make that picture your avitar. Of course it will be a little smaller.
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