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rbehrends
Sep 24, 2003, 10:54 PM
If you enjoy thermalling and aerobatics this flying wing will do it all very well!

At the Neat event I had the opportunity to get aquainted witha new foam flying wing. After flying a few Zagi thlg followed up by a couple of other flying wings ,I sort of gave up on the Idea, until Mike (better known Stocker) posted that he was in the final design stages of what has come to be known as the "Boomer". My renewed interest came on the heels of flying a Red Herring and actually thermalling it a bit. The only down side was that it displayed unsteady tendencys,kind of like trying to fly a leaf. Now that was the beginning of my new search. Along came Mike with the boomer. We met at the NEAT event where I had the oppotunity to examine and fly first hand. Surrounded by eager onlookers ,my buddies and critics I took my first launch.
It was nothing short of a surprise. It launched like a rocket straight as an arrow to what seemed to be around 70 feet or so. But that was only the beginning! What amazed me was the unusual shallow glide path it was on, followed by some holding and even thermaling turns. Not usual for a flying wing. Then the long jouney back finally coming to rest back in my hands. This was followed by more of the same and each flight ended in awe. What is equally surprising is the speed range. It goes up like a missle then moves out and gets comfortable at a nice penetrating pace, mind you , all this with minimun sink . Even turns are flat,uneventfiull, witdh absolutely no stall tendencies. Thermals are easily read by a sort of a leap followed by a bit of down elevator and then the fun really begins. When you are bored thermalling, you might now want to roll it , loop it ,outsite loop it, and on demand it will do what you ask. My launch heights are consistently 70 to 80 feet,maybe even more.
I feel if Mike hit upon an extremly efficient planform and design and if you follow his instructions you cannot go wrong. As for
the minor changes that I did to mine. Here they are:
I used the 1.6ml tape over the entire wing.
I even extended the tape 1/4 "past the ailerons bottom first then top. Then I trimmed the tape back to within 1/8 " of the ailerons. The strengh of the tape was more important then the flex I might get down the road. Also to minimize the final weight I used Blow Pens to color the leading edges with design followed by solid over the rest of the wing . The bottom untouched. The paint came to about 2 to 3 grams in total. I used a Nmh 270 ma for fuel but still needed a bit of lead for balance. I also used a mini phone jack for charging and as a switch. My balance was best at 5 &7/8 '" from the leading edge. Total weight is 5.6 ounces. My next model will only need one more minor change, and that has to do with beefing up the throwing location on the wing, by using a light balsa spar between the two plates. Also make sure that you locate these plates near the turn at the leading edge. Do not go aft!

Now go out and have some fun with a real dl flying wing!
Thank you for a job well done,Mike!
Regards to all:
Richard

fprintf
Sep 25, 2003, 08:28 AM
Funny, but this sounds *exactly* like most magazine reviews! Were there no negative tendencies? How does it fly compared to a similarly sized regular-plan form DLG? How does it fly versus the red herring or the bug?

Edit: Oooof, that sounds so harsh. Sorry, still in flame mode from another discussion I guess. In any case, I am seriously interested in whether a flying wing can have all these positive attributes with no negative tendencies. All I have heard on RCSE and RCGroups is that flying wings give up some things to regular planform gliders due to the sweep necessary to maintain control. Thanks!

rbehrends
Sep 25, 2003, 08:40 PM
It is not a magazine review. Too much money goes out the window on hype with now substance. Your response is not surprising when we try to weed through all that is being thrown out there. If you compare oranges to oranges I think you will find this wing to outperform anything you have seen so far. I love handlaunch and tend to want to compare. I have flown a Red Herring, Zagie , ZB ,no bug. and bunch of Hlgs before the DLGs; became the standard and this thing wants to fly. It seems to have all the best characteristics a flying wing could have. It is not a HLG and if you drop them from a given altitude no thermals present ,likely the hlg will win out! But if you both run into a thermal, both will core it very closely!The advantage I found was in the launch! Straight up ,no correction to 70-80 honest feet! There is the advantage
In the hands of a competition dlg pilot this will dance! I think you will aggree!.

sleipnir
Sep 26, 2003, 03:50 AM
Where can I get one!

Stocker
Sep 26, 2003, 07:03 AM
Loolk in the vender forum for info.
or call 518-587-5994

jrgospod
Sep 26, 2003, 08:40 AM
Stocker

I will be going on vacation soon. Any way to make the tail/fin detachable for transport? Other than that it looks like it would pack nicely.

John

Stocker
Sep 26, 2003, 08:46 AM
Just take the tape off the tail mount block on the bottom and
SHAZAM! flaten it out and ready to travel.

Mike Baker

John Gallagher
Sep 26, 2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by rbehrends
I have flown a Red Herring, Zagie , ZB ,no bug. and bunch of Hlgs before the DLGs; became the standard and this thing wants to fly.

Richard,
Did you try discus launching the ZB? The designer says that it can be SALed. I have a ZB kit and was thinking of building it, if it can be DLGed.
Also, was your red herring one of the new ones from Liftworx.com or one the old ones.
The Bug can be discus or SALed to 70 feet. Launches great.
You talk about how great the launch of the Boomer is, but you don't talk about how long the flights are. What's your longest thermal flight?

John

jrgospod
Sep 26, 2003, 01:20 PM
Stocker

I sure wish you had a web page with some pictures. I'm not understanding how this wing goes together.

John

Stocker
Sep 26, 2003, 01:33 PM
Call me tonight John, I will explain it to you.
518-587-5994