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Tom Hawkins
Sep 04, 2003, 03:03 AM
> We had really poor traction on the parking lots with the Bolink and the
> RC10L, both of which had foam tires. I even tried a new set of foams. I
> also tried swapping out motors and tried everything from a 12T triple,
> to a plain old stock. I also swapped out about 5 different spurs and
> pinions but could never get a good bite on the road.
>
> The cars with foam tires would get about 1/2 speed up and just spin out.

I also just pulled my 10L off the shelf, which hasn't been used in 10
years.

After dropping in a new motor and battery, I headed to a local tennis
court. I noticed exactly the same thing: 0 traction. Getting on the
throttle out of the corners causes multiple flat-spins. Clearly foams
and semi-dusty surfaces do not mix.

I considered getting rubber tires for the 10L, but realized it's no
longer possible. Bolink used to make a wheel set for the 10L and Buds
Racing Products had a hub converter to put touring wheels on the 10L,
but both companies have discontinued the products.

Then it hit me: How about a front-wheel-drive / rear-wheel-steering
conversion kit? In other words, run the 10L backwards!

The conversion consists of soldiering the motor backwards, advance the
motor timing in the opposite direction (modified motor), flipping the
steering servo direction, and giving the rears a little backwards
toe-in.

All I can say is WOW! Front-wheel-drive/rear-wheel-steering is a
blast to drive! Spin-outs are a thing of the past. And driving it
has an entirely new sensation. The slides in the corners are easily
controllable, giving it the feel of a sprint car. Have I invented a
new racing class?

-Tom

Justin Mahn
Sep 04, 2003, 03:03 AM
sounds cool, but you'll need a few more people to make a 'class'. :-)

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Justin Mahn
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"Tom Hawkins" <tom1@launchbird.com> wrote in message
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> > We had really poor traction on the parking lots with the Bolink and the
> > RC10L, both of which had foam tires. I even tried a new set of foams. I
> > also tried swapping out motors and tried everything from a 12T triple,
> > to a plain old stock. I also swapped out about 5 different spurs and
> > pinions but could never get a good bite on the road.
> >
> > The cars with foam tires would get about 1/2 speed up and just spin out.
>
> I also just pulled my 10L off the shelf, which hasn't been used in 10
> years.
>
> After dropping in a new motor and battery, I headed to a local tennis
> court. I noticed exactly the same thing: 0 traction. Getting on the
> throttle out of the corners causes multiple flat-spins. Clearly foams
> and semi-dusty surfaces do not mix.
>
> I considered getting rubber tires for the 10L, but realized it's no
> longer possible. Bolink used to make a wheel set for the 10L and Buds
> Racing Products had a hub converter to put touring wheels on the 10L,
> but both companies have discontinued the products.
>
> Then it hit me: How about a front-wheel-drive / rear-wheel-steering
> conversion kit? In other words, run the 10L backwards!
>
> The conversion consists of soldiering the motor backwards, advance the
> motor timing in the opposite direction (modified motor), flipping the
> steering servo direction, and giving the rears a little backwards
> toe-in.
>
> All I can say is WOW! Front-wheel-drive/rear-wheel-steering is a
> blast to drive! Spin-outs are a thing of the past. And driving it
> has an entirely new sensation. The slides in the corners are easily
> controllable, giving it the feel of a sprint car. Have I invented a
> new racing class?
>
> -Tom

Bubba
Sep 05, 2003, 03:02 AM
On 3 Sep 2003 13:16:18 -0700, tom1@launchbird.com (Tom Hawkins) wrote:

>I considered getting rubber tires for the 10L, but realized it's no
>longer possible. Bolink used to make a wheel set for the 10L and Buds
>Racing Products had a hub converter to put touring wheels on the 10L,
>but both companies have discontinued the products.

While trying to find enough traction to allow a 10LSS with a D5 8x1 to
hook up on the street (it's not possible, so don't even bother trying
;) I discovered that if I stripped the foam off the wheels I could cut
them down on the lathe and press some normal TC wheels on them. Works
perfect and looks pretty good, too. I still have major problems
getting traction with anything more than a stock motor, but the wheels
have stayed on there with no glue or screws.

Bubba