Slinger B-2

[Stregaracer007]

Here's a picture of my GP Slinger.

I didn't particularly like the "Captain America" flagship look, so I stripped it off and painted it to look like a B-2 Stealth Bomber.

By the looks of the underside, I don't think the trim is Monocote. It came off really easily. I slid a razor blade underneath to lift up the corner and pulled the rest off.

For Paint I used Testors Model Master Enamel from a can. To prep the iron covering, I used a heat gun to tighten the covering, roughed it up with 000 steel wool and used alcohol to clean off the dust. The color is Gun Ship Grey on top and flat black on the bottom.

I still need to install servos, linkage and put panel lines on top.

Strega

[BIFFSTER]

Great Idea... I just bought and built my slinger yesterday...kept mine as simple and stock as it gets.... i heard it will give zagi a run. sure hope that is true:) have you seen one fly??? has anyone compared them next to a zagi???

[The Max-Q]

Nice work! I also thought the paint job was a bit outworldly for a semi-scale Spirit. Nice paint job.

[Air 1]

Yeah, I've compared it to a Zagi. It all around flies like a Zagi, but faster rolls rates and I think its better all around. I really like the build time on it compared to a Zagi. Give us a flight report when you get yours going.

[GWS4CEO]

Compared with GWS B-2 which is comming soon.:)
http://www.gws.com.tw/english/product/airfly/b-2.htm

http://www.gws.com.tw/images/product/f_airplane_b2_01.jpg

http://www.gws.com.tw/images/product/f_airplane_b2_02.jpg

Original planning for EDF50 X2. Since USA need Over Power very much, just under engineering change to be fit for twin EDF55s.:D

[Mike Parsons]

**off Topic**
Mr lin,
I am normally an advocate of yours, but this is the second time in two days I have seen you spam another thread to compare (advertise) your product against someone elses. First one was with Stevensaero beta Mini pattern plane (here (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133510&perpage=15&pagenumber=3))and this one. Please keep to comparing or showing your items to the vendors forum and responding appropriately in these forums.

**back on topic**


Strega,
Interested in a flight report.



Mike

[peterv]

With all the spars in the wing there is no Zagi flap on a power dive pull out, I had one and like the Slinger much better, especially the build time!
BTW NICE Paint job!!

Pete

[AirTek]

Strega.. I was thinking of painting my black.. but I decided not to because if I taped up the plastic canopy.. then removing it will ruin the paint job. Did you do anything to get around that?

Also.. did the paint job added weight that affected the flight performance?

[Stregaracer007]

Thanks for looking at my pic and the comments.

I can't comment on the flight performance because I haven't finished it yet. I'm not planning any performance mods, so it should perform just like a regular Slinger; although, it will be harder to see given the color choice.

Airtek, I taped the canopy from the inside using the supplied velcro. Its the same as my Zagi 400X. I don't know how these guys are losing their canopies because mine has never come off. The weight of the paint is neglible. If you paint it all black, it will be even harder to see. I put a black widow mark on the bottom using red trim tape for added orientation.

[KSU Flyer]

Yup, that is what Mr. Lin is all about...spamming
He has zero manners...:mad:

-Mike

[Air 1]

I'm also not sure why people are losing their canopies, but mine only fell off once. It was my fault because I was doing a full power dive with 8 cell 1800 mAH AA cell batteries which weighs about 2 pounds, LOL. The battery somehow unplugged the deans connector from the speed control, and I found the battery about 1 foot in the mud. My Slinger tumbled into a pond. I let my electronics dry out in the plane for a day, and it was back to normal. Tuff little outfit!

[someone special]

I am kinda confused, I am interested buying a slinger but I've heard it has several problems.
For example:

The winglets dont fit properly
The canopy doesn't fit properly that makes all the equipment to come out.

But for the value I am ready to fix these problems, any help?

Will the CA foam friendly glue work well on the winglets?

[peterv]

I had no luck with glue holding the winglets on. They extend below the wing and hit the ground on landings. The way they mount makes for very stable low speed flight though. I used fiberglass strapping tape, not pretty but does the job. Have had no problem with the canopy coming off, even in a few nose ins. Equipment mounts real easy and the canopy does not extend past the nose so is not damaged in a crash. I really like it and have had a 400x before. The plane can fly much slower, rolls are quick and inverted is excellent, a very stable wing.

Pete

[Paul Penney]

You can also use velcro to hold winglets on. If they come off, pop 'em back on.

Paul

[BIFFSTER]

First off,Paul, I gotta say the velcro idea sounds great!!!(lancaster???) I have put small 2" picture nails thru winglet and epoxied them aswell as the winglet, hope it holds ... I flew my sliger on her maiden last night.. perfect. right outa the box. flew it stock with a zagi 1900mah batt. my first success in r/c. my last attempt was with a mini speed wing., it was too unstable for me.. the slinger is rock solid, I put 4 batteries thru it and it uses all no prob. the other batts I used were a gws 6-cell 600mah, gws 8 cell 720mah and homemade 1...the 6 cell did'nt have the same juice as the othes but still flew just fine. big loops rolls zoom zoom here zoom zoom there......I really like this thing. only problem is winglets...both came off on a "normal" landing...

Chris.

[BIFFSTER]

OH yeah, as for the equipment falling out... if you use some heavy-duty velcro for the batt. and secure everything else properly then you could probably fly it without the canopy if you like. the canopy will hold just fine if you use velcro as per instructions . the key is to use enough velcro to hold down big-ass battery during hi- G manuvers.:D

[someone special]

is velcro included? if not then where can I get one?

Is it available through tower? I am going to order the slinger through them

[Air 1]

I'm not sure where to get the velcro, I usually just get it from Wal-Mart or some other place like that. I've never had a problem with the canopy not fitting. The velcro on that works pretty good.

[someone special]

The thing is I am not sure what a velcro is. Is it like hook and loop fastener?

Any pics showing it on the slinger?

[BIFFSTER]

YES hook and loop =VELCRO :D the kit comes with about a foot of it way more than enough for canopy . will need more for batt. you might be able to get some at home depot? Also... the motor has a removable metal ring around it. take it off, you'll get a few more rps...and you could order kit from tower...:) flew mine just a few minutes ago.... very nice, no problems other than not having enough batteries:) (did not crash even once!!!) that is a new thing for me:D next time I break my winglets off I will do the velcro thing to them........

Chris G.

[Doctor Who]

You can get VELCRO at any Wal-mart. It is in the department with the craft stuff and fabric. They normally have it in white or black and have an industrial strength version as well.

Biffster-
Looks like you are local. Where do you fly?

Jay

[someone special]

thanks!

I am going to order the slinger. I was always looking into a zagi type plane without working for days to get it RTF.

I always had this feeling that I would find one soon.

I fly at 3 different fields near my house.

What glue did you guys use for attaching the velcro to the canopy?

[BIFFSTER]

you should not have to glue the velcro down. I do suggest to glue the wing tubes and wings together.and to velcro the winglets:) and have fun.....

[Stregaracer007]

Here's an updated photo. I used a sharpie pen to draw the panel lines.

I still haven't figured how to route the antenna. On my Zagi, I made it go out the bottom, then cut a slit in the foam cores, and pushed it in, so the antenna doesn't show. I most likely will do the same for the Slinger.

I also need get some clear plastic for the winglets.

Last problem is securing the plastic fuse. The instructions say to use the scotch tape provided, but I think it will ruin the look. I'm considering either using transparent scotch tape or gluing it in. The problem with gluing it is that I'm not sure how big the gap is between the fuse and the core.

Strega

[someone special]

All I can say is it is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

It now looks more of a stealth. You can cut a small hole in the canopy and keep the receiver antenna or wire on the fuselage.

[Stregaracer007]

Test flew the Slinger and its awesome. Much faster than the Zagi 400x, both speed and roll rate. Roll rate was blinding on full rates. It was too hot on the first flight. If I pulled too hard on the elevator, it would snap out of it after a 1/4 loop. Had to tone down the throws and add more expo.

I tried installing a stock zagi pack (8x1700) and it wouldn't fit. The airscoop hit the top of the battery, so I used a 10 cell, Hecell pack. Much more power, but not as much flight time. Flight lasted about 7 minutes on full power throughout.

Other observations:

1) The grey and black is hard to see, as expected. Its even harder when the sun is in front of you.

2) The clear plastic winglets are invisible in the air, so that also makes it hard to gain orientation.

3) The shape of the fuse is wider than a Zagi, so its harder to get a grip. I grip the trailing edge underneath the prop and throw it like a baseball with power off.

Strega

[AirDog]

Stregaracer007

You sure did a wonderful job on your Slnger. I'd give you a prize if I had one, but oh well congrats will just have to do.

I have a question for all of you that have already owned a Zagi -
I have heard the Zagi will almost thermal if you go high and cut way back on the power (I assume this would be with a say 600 ma pack) small = light = thermal or soar - I ordered my Slinger today after weeks of resurchasing data on Zagi's and what I could find out about the Slinger - the comments on this thread realy helped - thanks all. I ordered an 1100 ma nicad along with my Slinger for a start.

I sure hope one of you guys comes back and reads this post

Thanks Again, AirDog

[Stregaracer007]

Airdog,

Thanks for the post and the compliments.

I haven't tried thermaling my Zagi. I suppose if you used a smaller pack it will work. I don't have any lightweight packs, so mine's a lead sled without power.

I think the Slinger is a better choice over the Zagi because the cost is about the same and you don't have to cover it with tape. The tape is just a pain. The downside of the Slinger is that it will look just like everyone elses. That's one of the reasons for painting mine.

Good luck,

Strega

[silverwing]

You guys can make your Slinger wing tips stay on with no problems.
First put very thin plywood on each wing end. Then match the lower edge of the wing tip with out putting the tip below the edge of the wing itself.
Then put 3 small screws through the tips into the new plywood on the wing ends.
Your wing tips will stay on, mine did. That Slinger is a great ship, much better than my buddy's Zoggy!

[Kregg]

I have the Slinger with a hacker brushless motor and she scoots very well. Anyone have a idea how she will fly if I cut off 3 inches from each wing tip? I need a shorter wing to fit it in my trunk.

I would think that it would be faster, but still lots of wing area.

[gvr4201]

wow strega, that looks awesome!! i have a slinger still in the box, not yet built because waiting for hs81's and my reciever. i was going to use regular servos and 3 cell 2100 TP pack and stock 400, but i didn't know if the extra weight of the servos would mess things up. anyhow, i scored the slinger from tower hobbies for 44.99 (sale price from a month ago, but for some reason it stayed in my shopping cart for a month!) plus i had a $5 off coupon, so for $40 i couldn't pass it up. the version i got though comes with the plywood at the wingtips so you can bolt up the winglets, and also comes with an extra wood center piece that goes between the two wing halves which you can grab onto for hand launching.
the only prob is, the plastic center piece doesn't seem to fit flush with the wings, and it takes quite a bit of pressure to get it to sit right. is this normal, anyone else with the same problem?

[Greg D]

I've been flying Slingers for over a year (2 of them now) and had some of the same problems - here's how I fixed them. Winglets, first off the winglets that come in the kit don't seem to stay on no matter what you do however they make real nice patterns to cut new ones from coroplast corogated sign material. As far as ataching them I cut 3/32 ply to match the wing tip shape (gives the proper spacing for the elevons) and epoxy them in place then I drill those out about 3" apart with a 1/4 inch bit approx 1/2 deep. epoxy in some 1/4 dowels flush with the new tip ribs thenI drill & tap for #8-32 and screw my new coroplast (read as indestuctable) winglets on they are much stronger and don't weigh enough to affect the balance notably but I fly mine with a 1/4" aft center of gravity (VERY RESPONSIVE!). The other mod I make is to build ply servo mounts and epoxy them into the wing I did this after a high speed dive flutter disassembled one of mine in mid air. Finally I swiched over to the Zagi carbon fiber props for duability and a little better accelleration. I DO LOVE how these planes fly :D :D :D :D PS I fly mine 1100mah packs that are made for it and GET 12 to 14mins. and they'll fast charge in15!

[Hammer Head]

Great winglet fix Greg.

I fly on a Zagi reverse timed and 8 cell and 9 cell 1050 mah metals. Best on 9 cell. I was pretty lazy with the winglets, I sunk wood screws in through the stock winglets, with epoxy, 3 small screws on each. Has held like a charm but your way gets the elevon /winglet space happening. I am constantly messing with them so they do not rub (like leaving the plane with foam spacers in when not in use).

Thanks for posting your mod. :)

Next Slinger (on my third in two years) :rolleyes:, that is how I will do it.

HH

[Hammer Head]

"Zagi carbon fiber props"

That is the way to go, and a prop adaptor!

HH

[Greg D]

It's nice to see some other people out flying these things my LHS seems to sell them but I'm the only one around here I've seen flying them if you try the rear center of gravity it can have a tendency to snap out of quick hard loops but it allows you to take a little of the reflex out of the elevons whitch will improve the speed by reducing drag. I've also found that if you want a stock CG it seems to come out at about 2 oz I just make a little slice at the wing roots about 3/4" back from the LE and tuck the weights in before assembly I've also pitched the kit hardware and replaced it with good 2-56 rods & Sullivan Golden cleveses (the kind with the locks) and they're steel horns. I launch mine the same way one of the other guys mentioned - hold at the back POWER OFF, throw it then hit the thottle.(remember to arm your ESC or it'll be a real short flite - I refuse to comment on how I know). And I also use Blue bird BMS 371 servos (Hitec 55 size but they have 31oz torque!) :D :D :) PS Does the Zagi revese timed motor you mentioned have more power, better efficency, or? Thanks Greg I thought about a ply center section like gvr 4201 mentioned came with his kit only was thinking extending it and the tips I use on mine down and incorporating some of those Quickey500 thin plastic wheels and having a Slinger I can fly of paved runways! Anybody else game.

[Hammer Head]

"remember to arm your ESC or it'll be a real short flite - I refuse to comment on how I know"Greg

I call that a test glide :D

"Blue bird BMS 371 servos"

Where did you aquire those, who makes them?

"Zagi revese timed motor you mentioned have more power, better efficency" G

More Power, but suck amps a bit more it seems...really shines on 9 cell, about the same as stock on the 8 cell Kan packs I use.

I launch power off also, overhead, then power on.

ROG slinger all right!

HH :)

[Greg D]

I buy my Blue Bird servos from either Balsa Products @ balsapr.com or from AV8 hobbies Balsa Prod takes credit cards (great people to deal with and some items are "make offer" plus they offer quantity discounts. Good Flying Hammerhead!

[Hammer Head]

Right on Greg. Good flying to you too! :)

HH

[Greg D]

My last Slinger was shot down a while back, I finally couldn't take it any more. Went and got a new one today. First I'll make all of my usual mods. I've already put a neon red, orange, yellow, green, & blue stripes on the bottom of the rt wing ("oh it's going that way" or "that's the side that's up"also solves "which one is mine"). Saved my servo mt's from the last one so those are a poxy in & go. Can't wait to get er flyin but will still take my time with the build. :D :D :D :D

[Hammer Head]

My last Slinger was shot down a while back, I finally couldn't take it any more. Went and got a new one today. First I'll make all of my usual mods. I've already put a neon red, orange, yellow, green, & blue stripes on the bottom of the rt wing ("oh it's going that way" or "that's the side that's up"also solves "which one is mine"). Saved my servo mt's from the last one so those are a poxy in & go. Can't wait to get er flyin but will still take my time with the build. :D :D :D :D

Right on. Great colors :) . The white bottom of the Slinger wing can really wash-out up there.

HH

[Greg D]

Was looking on Balsa Products Site a while ago and saw that they also have Blue Bird ESCs 15a for about 18$. I picked my wing bottom colors by the wiits method (Whatever Is In The Shop) :D :eek: :D :D

[gvr4201]

i finally got to fly my slinger. pretty much stock except for a 3 cell TP 2100 pack which gives me about 20-25 min. of total flight time (although the motor gets pretty hot after only 5 minute flight bouts. there was one mod i made, i put another vent just on top and front of the motor, and i used a lighter to slightly melt the plastic a little to make it "scoop" air towards the motor. you guys are right, its very solid and steady, and the factory changes like the ply center piece make it super easy to launch. very happy with my $40 plane. BTW, towerhobbies have it for 49.99 right now free shipping till 6/20

[Greg D]

Thought about going Tower for my next one (beats the 59$ retail) but I had 50$ store credit at the LHS! Couldn't let the slip stay around too long it mighta accidentally gotten washed. :D :D :D PS are you using the new LiPo compatable ESCs from FMA?

[flyingwings]

Tried the launch holding the aft end. It works but not the best.

A simpler method that allows launching with the motor running.

At the CG drill a 1" hole on the underside.

When your ready to launch put your index finger in the hole and spread your fingers out to balance the Slinger. Start your motor and launch. It works every time.

Everyone loves the Slinger that flies it. It thermals very well. I have flown mine in 30 mph winds with no problem.

[Greg D]

That finger hole idea's pretty good but I think I'm going to cut a light ply plate to use as a skid/handhold, a little easier on the covering our feild has some bare patches with sandy dirt that have been a little rough on my previous ones. I'll also cut my new winglets slightly long (about 1/4") on the bottom to keep the wing surface off the ground. Glad you liked your slinger too. The kit I got today is obviously early production and has none of the ply pieces. Oh well thats why I have a band saw! :D :D :D

[gvr4201]

Thought about going Tower for my next one (beats the 59$ retail) but I had 50$ store credit at the LHS! Couldn't let the slip stay around too long it mighta accidentally gotten washed. :D :D :D PS are you using the new LiPo compatable ESCs from FMA?
nope cant afford that FMA stuff. just using regular GP slinger $15 esc, and making sure i don't drain battery too low to mess it up. i have no problems with any of my planes i run on 3 cells and regular ESC. today i flew the plane at Dana Point Beach and got alot of complements on it. i love this plane

[Greg D]

FMA 20a Lipoly ESC is only 37$ (cheaper than a new batt) haven't seen the Slinger ESC anywhere. I also like to keep things cheap but I'll spend alittle more on some things. If you saw my post on the neon rainbow stripes I put on the bottom it got a little out of hand today, I did it to both wings then covered over the blue-blue-red stripes on the top with neon red,yellow,& orange (tip to root) used the stock style for those stripes though. You have to admit flying Slingers can be downright addictive! This is about the most fun airplane I've ever owned. Probably won't get er done til next week though my work week starts 12:00 am thurs, I do 12s so I sleep alot last half of the week. :D

[gvr4201]

slinger esc is available from tower hobbies for $15. was flying my slinger today at van nuys air field and parkzone was doing their commercials for their new line of RTF planes, and man that new f27 gave my slinger a run for its money. very impressive. but also there was a zagi with one of those multiplex BL motors, and it must have not been prop right because my slinger was almost faster.

[Hammer Head]

"that new f27 gave my slinger a run for its money" gvr4201

Hey gvr4201

Do you know what the Park Zone plane is made of, styro, Elapor, EPP?

Was it faster than your Slinger?

Was it as agile?

Just curious.

HH

[gvr4201]

yes it was agile, immelmans, split s, clean inside/outside loops, low level 1-2' inverted pass, rolling 360s but of course this was with accomplished pilot. speed was probably about the same since its smaller and has a 480.

all epp, nicely painted.

[Hammer Head]

480 and EPP, interesting :)

Keep em up there gvr4201!

HH

[LuckyArmpit]

Chris, mini speedwing would be a bad choice for a first foray into RC flight.
I have one of these little 20 inch wings with a J250 on it. Most difficult to fly in the whole fleet. But, it is darn fast!!!! BTW, I wouldn't use any 6 cell packs on speed 400's. Just not enough punch! Use either 7 cell nicads, 8 cell nimh's or, 3 cell lipos (use throttle as this pack can lessen the life of the motor considerably). 2S lipos will work nicely provided the 400 motor is geared (I fly 'em in my Tiger Moth 400).

Dave...

[Greg D]

Well guys been away from the puter for a few days (nights) - that work thing. Did however finish the "Neon Rainbow" Slinger today, maybe maiden it tomorrow (calling for 50% chance of rain -Oh well, here in the midwest we say "don't like the weather? - wait 10min) guess we'll see what happens. Wish us luck (me and the plane) you'd think after a 14 years of RC and 15 years of FF, & CL before that I'd lose that 1st flight jitters thing, especialy on the 3rd of the same plane. "Keep Slinging It" :D :D :D

[gvr4201]

i guess this thread is slowly becoming the slinger flyers thread. motor on my slinger is quickly becoming tired on the 3 cell TP 2100s. i will need a replacement soon. i also painted my slinger in japanese fighter theme. olive drab on top white on bottom with red circles top bottom and on the winglets. ill take a picture. the japanese had alot of secret planes that were never produced, i saw a special on wings, but i don't if they had a flying wing looking plane. ill post pics when i get them

[Hammer Head]

Best of maiden Grag.

gvr4201 and Greg, it would be cool to see some pics if/when possible :)

HH

[gvr4201]

i hope this works, im not good at posting. if not heres the web address for my album http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewall&albumID=112414181
http://community.webshots.com/s/image13/3/18/66/153031866eBccWX_ph.jpg

this is before picture

[gvr4201]

Banzai SLinger
http://community.webshots.com/s/image1/3/27/40/153032740GVGxIf_ph.jpg

[gvr4201]

last pic. bottm was kept white with red meatballs
http://community.webshots.com/s/image1/3/21/58/153032158vZMwGR_ph.jpg

[Greg D]

Just returned from the field. 1st flight was good, windy and turbulent today here so I stopped at one flight - CG at 81/4 in from LE was great. Maybe its just me but this Slinger was a little smoother with a rear CG than the last one (maybe it likes it's new colors) I'll have to get a hold of someone with a digital camera and get some photos to post, yeah I know they say take the pics first but after 5 Slinger free months I just couldn't wait. At least I got rid of those 1st flight jitters. Thanks for the well wishes. Gvr 4201 - I couldn't open your pics on my puter. would still like to see your Banzi Slinger, I'll bet it's cool! :D :D :D :D

[Hammer Head]

Right on Greg! Glad it went well.

Sure like to see these "custom" Slingers guys.

HH

[Greg D]

Took the Neon Rainbow Slinger out this evening for another flight (ran out of daylight after one) had made some trim adjustments FLEW GREAT! This air plane is almost too fun. Keep Slinging It Guys! Be back later. :D :D :D

[gvr4201]

Just returned from the field. 1st flight was good, windy and turbulent today here so I stopped at one flight - CG at 81/4 in from LE was great. Maybe its just me but this Slinger was a little smoother with a rear CG than the last one (maybe it likes it's new colors) I'll have to get a hold of someone with a digital camera and get some photos to post, yeah I know they say take the pics first but after 5 Slinger free months I just couldn't wait. At least I got rid of those 1st flight jitters. Thanks for the well wishes. Gvr 4201 - I couldn't open your pics on my puter. would still like to see your Banzi Slinger, I'll bet it's cool! :D :D :D :D
glad it went well, just go to my webshots page, you can see it there. if anyone is willing to try to copy on post my slinger on this thread, please do. i cant get it to post myself.

[Greg D]

Gvr4201 tried the link to your page 2 separate times and got some sort of error page - I'll have my wife try it for me later (she's the house puter expert here). I'll keep trying though really want to see them. Found out my sister -in law has a digital camera as soon as I can hook up with her I'll have Honey help me post some pics. Keep Slinging It! :D

[Hammer Head]

All this Slinger talk pushed me to clean the "Sling" tonight and add some more reflective tape to the white underside.


Lets see some pics! :)

HH

[Greg D]

To gvr4201- Went to your pics site by typing the add, saw the pics Very Cool.To everyone- Found out today that the neon on mine made it possible to fly it at dusk. This was something I couldn't do with my earlier ones becase of diorientation problems. Maybe fly again tomorrow. :D :D

[gvr4201]

i sloped my slinger today. man was it fun. it flew awesome even with weight of kan 1050s. and it was nice to be able to fly it nice and slow for a change, still go fast a play combat with some seagulls! nothing beats being at the beach and flying all day without having to charge batteries.

[Hammer Head]

Cool gvr4201

The Slinger does slope well! :cool:

HH :)

[Greg D]

Well guys you just answered a question that bouncing around in my in head the other day (there's alittle extra room up there). I was wondering how good a sloper it would make. Last time I had mine out was doing a little 0 ground speed flying into the wind found the slinger very stable doing that (not all the planes I've had did that well. Should be able to get some pics to post 1st of the week (i'm in my "work week" on the weekends). Keep Slinging It! :D :D

[Greg D]

Hey guys - was down in flying wings forum and found a Slinger thread. This guy was asking about flutter so I posted the linkage mods I use any way this guy is flying his with a Magnetic Mayhem! On a Slinger thats got to be an appropriate name for that motor! Gonna try to get out to fly tomorrow (first I have to put a new fuel pump in Honey's Explorer (that meens pulling out the whole fuel tank - oh well better than paying 250$ labor. Keep Slinging It! :D :D :D

[Martyszy]

Hi I am re-new to r/c and I bought a Slinger put a futaba FP-T4NBL EBAY cheapie in in it with an integral ESC and mini servos, a wattage 9.6 1100 mah and it flew like a brick. I guess I need a primer again as the last I flew this kind of stuff was 1974. I bought an Accipiture Babiuswhatever and that can take a 6" mud dive but I want to get technical as I have a GWS pico ready to go as soon as TX gets here. I want to put it in a Wattage Turbo Vector ducted fan. Anyway here we go.
Marty

[Hammer Head]

Did you cycle the batt pack?

Another common issue is having the prop on for a pusher.

Without a prop adaptor I found the "stock" press on prop slipped at times.

HH

[gvr4201]

i want to get this magnetic mayhem motor. but tower hobbies has two different ones. standard and reverse rotation. this is a dumb question, but just need someone else to second it. i need the reverse rotation if using it as a pusher direct drive (or as a puller when using gearbox) right? and if i want to use it as a pusher WITH gearbox ill need standard rotation, right?

[Hammer Head]

For a pusher DD you want a clockwise rotation when looking at the motor shaft.

"reverse rotation if using it as a pusher direct drive (or as a puller when using gearbox) right?"

Yes, as I understand it.

Hope that helps

HH

[Greg D]

Hi guys, gvr let us know how the kyosho motor works out (do know you'll need a 30 amp esc) maybe I'll try that motor on the Slinger ROG (still working out the tipwheel mounting though I fly from a grass field) Did go out and Sling it a little today as always fllew great! still working on the pics I promise I'll get them soon. Keep Slinging It! :D :D P.S. You guys are right about the reverse rotation being the motor you want thats going to need a pretty good sized pusher prop - watch those fingers.

[Greg D]

Hows it going guys? Just came from Great Planes website doing a comment page on the Slinger. Suggested they check out this thread to see what some of are doing with them, if they do I hope they'll drop us a post. Planning on doing some Slinging tomorrow (is the Slinger name word play getting corny yet?) Keep Slinging It! (i'm keeping that last though) :D :D :D

[gvr4201]

i havent gotten around to changing the motor on the slinger. i didn't know i had to get a new 30a esc for the mag mayhem, i have the great planes slinger esc from towerhobbies but i dont know the rating on it. so, maybe i will just go brushless because i don't have a battery that will do 30A, i want to just stick with my TP 2100 3 cell. but for now i guess i stick with the stock till it burns out (hopefully at least 2 weeks), still this plane is very fun on 3 cell lipo, the difference is like night and day compared to 9.6v kan 1050, and its very fun to do full throttle low level figure 8's in my small baseball field over here, then loop loop loop, it just blows people away how manueverable yet stable my banzai slinger is.

[Greg D]

GVR your Slinger esc I believe is rated at 10 -15 amp on my new one I'm using a GP 20 amp with the S400 which they say can work with some S600 setups, (it's on their site) if you know any RC car guys you can double check with them but I know most of us plane guys use 30 amp escs with car motors that's what I've always used with them. Great Planes has a reverse rot S600 for geared set ups that might draw a little less than car motor but I think it might be a little heavier than a Mayhem hope any of this helps out (I DO like the brushless idea though) E-flite has a new line of 370 & 400 brushless that are very reasonable $ they're distributed by GP or Horizon so gettting them is easy, I posted a thread "New Brushless" a while back and some of the guy's did feedback some info on them one guy said his LHS sold the 400 for $47 I beleive. Keep Slinging It! :D :D :D P.S. if you need to replace your S400 at least it's only about 9$!

[gvr4201]

check out my avatar, banzai!

[Hammer Head]

Cool looking Slinger gvr4201! :)

Gee... I have not flown my Sling (or any other plane for that matter) in over a week due to weather. Got the flying wing jones real bad.

So get out there and get a flight in for me guys, as it looks like I am "socked" in for another day or two. :mad:

Keep em up there guys!

HH

[Greg D]

:( They were predicting rain today for late this afternoon here - it started this morning! I'm having the same withdrawls as you, maybe Gvr is hopefully getting some in for the rest of us. Only a 3 day work week this week due to the holiday so if I can't slip in a few over weekend (everybody elses) at least next weekend is close - one good thing about the monday thru wednesday weekend I have is that the field I fly at is less busy when I'm off. Keep Slinging It! P.S. Love the avatar Gvr! if I can get the one I'm (acually my brother-in-law) working on accomplished I think you'll get a kick out of it. :D

[Hammer Head]

You too! :(

Well...Go gvr4201 Go!

Looks like it might clear here tomorrow. Sure hope so.

HH :)

[yorbenator]

hey guys
did anybody try bungeeing the slinger jet??

i've heard about it but couldn't figure out where they'd attach the hook

[Greg D]

My Slinger has a ply plate installed between the wing halves (I hear the newer kits come with this I made mine) - my solution would be to to cut a notch in the plate/skid (it extends about 1"below the surface of the wing) to hook the loop to. There is probably a range that it would need to be in relative to the CG you might try asking some of the EDF guys in "JETS" about the location they bungee launch alot of they're stuff - Good Luck and Keep Slinging It! Greg :D

[gvr4201]

wow up late aye? whats your excuse, mines online traffic school. good idea about the high start hook cut out thing. ill try it in the morning and see how it bungees. ive been flying the hell out of my slinger lately, i thought that stock 400 would have burned out it out already. probably put 3 hours on it today alone, on 3 cell TP. ive been doing much cleaner rolling circles on the slinger since ive been flying it so much, but still my fav manuever is coming straight and low towards me and once its 7-10 feet away from hitting me, i immelman out (or is it split S?) and freak the hell out of who ever is standing next to me.
My Slinger has a ply plate installed between the wing halves (I hear the newer kits come with this I made mine) - my solution would be to to cut a notch in the plate/skid (it extends about 1"below the surface of the wing) to hook the loop to. There is probably a range that it would need to be in relative to the CG you might try asking some of the EDF guys in "JETS" about the location they bungee launch alot of they're stuff - Good Luck and Keep Slinging It! Greg :D

[Greg D]

Most of the family keeps an 8-5 type schedual here but I work 6pm to 6am on the back 1/2 of the week so on my "days off" I still stay up late and sleep at least most of the morning usally start at mid night on wed but was off cause of the holiday I have thought about a Lipo for my Slinger but I like the 20min battery charges I get with the Nicads in it I have 2 packs so I can rotate them think I'll get a 3rd too ALL my other planes are being switched to Lipo though. What charger do you use? I'm thinking of getting an Astro Flite 109 (some of my projects are as big as 1/4 scale and are ALL E power). Up a little early today was thinking of trying to go fly but it's over cast here, think I'll haul the wing to fild and take a look though. You must of got on about the same time I logged out this morning your post time says. Keep Slinging It! :D :D

[Hammer Head]

ive been doing much cleaner rolling circles on the slinger since ive been flying it so much, but still my fav manuever is coming straight and low towards me and once its 7-10 feet away from hitting me, i immelman out (or is it split S?) and freak the hell out of who ever is standing next to me.

:eek: ;) :)

Sounds like an immelman to me gvr4201, and an extreme one at that. :D

HH

[gvr4201]

i use triton, and i love it because it does all batteries. but i hear astro is really good too, i just dont have money to buy two separate chargers for my lipo and non-lipo. ive gotten used to my 2100 3 cell i can fly around, go thermal for like 1/2 an hour, then come back down and play "chicken" with my slinger and fly around a little more. on my 8 cell kan 1050 i dont get near the power of the TP, and i get only about 5-8 minute of clean flight time.

[Greg D]

I use a Electrifly (GP) peak 400 for my Slinger packs - still saving money for the 109. I keep my Slinger and it's support equipment as a separate self contained package for as GP calls grab it & go flying sessions I can put it in the truck and be at the field in less than 5 min (my field ia less than a mile away!) I'd probably already have the 109 but I spent the money + some on a 1964 Ford F-100 pickup to restore (old trucks are another habit of mine). Got to go to work - Keep Slinging It! - Greg :D

[Hammer Head]

Hey Guys

I hope to get out tonight with a buddy and sling the slinger...after many days of no flying I am really looking forward to it.

HH

[Greg D]

Got up a little early today to try to get in a couple flights before work - this isthe worst overcast day all week to dark for good orientation. Oh well better to wait till tomorrow and still have a plane tomorrow. Keep Slinging It! :(

[Randy Due]

Just bought a Slinger today. Also got a long can sp400 that I was going to use instead of the stock 400 (I'll be running 3cell lipos), but after reading this thread I may just try the stock motor 1st. When it fries, then put on the long can?...comments, advice? Looks like a real easy build (if you can call it that :) ). I should get it together in the morning, uh I mean this morning :D and maiden this afternoon. Mine came with the plywood keel and plywood wingtips for winglet screws. I haven't had much experience with wings or elevons...think I should start with 8" cg or go ahead with 8 1/4"? Also, will hs55's work or should I use my 81mg's? I'll have to extract the 81's from another plane, so I hope the 55's will work. Thanks.

Randy

[Randy Due]

:D :D :D My heart's still pounding! What a rush! I got it together this morning and of course the winds were gusting all day long. I tried a couple of short flights earlier but cg wasn't quite right and along with the wind and dodging the trees, I never quite got a handle on it so I gave up until the wind died a bit. I set the cg just barely behind the recommended 8" and stuck a toothpick shim under the motor for some reflex. Went out and wow what a difference! The wind even started gusting a bit before the flight ended and it still flew great. I'm not any good at flying a wing yet, but still managed some rolls, large loops and got comfortable enough to come in between the trees for some low and slow flying. Made one good landing and one a little hard, but no damage other than one winglet coming loose. This thing is a blast! I left the stock motor on and decided to go with the hs81mg's because they fit in the slot and I knew they were up to the job.

Randy

[Hammer Head]

Right on Randy, wings are alot of fun.

I really like the 81s. A servo that can take some abuse for sure.

HH

[Randy Due]

Yeah, the 81s are tough. I'm sure that was what I needed in there. I wish I had more than one lipo pack that will fit in the compartment. My other 3s2p pack is too wide. Plus it's heavier, so if I did hack the compartment then I'd have to balance different. I think I'm going to really like this plane. I like having one of each ready to fly....slow plane, fast plane, and AP plane. Lately I've not had a fast one up and running, that's why I decided to try the Slinger. I'm really surprised at the speed range this thing has. Most of the time I flew at half throttle and it was plenty quick with 3 cells. Full throttle was screaming! On the other end of the spectrum, it would slow way down without stalling too. I was pleased at how well it would handle in fairly close quarters between the trees at slow speeds I'm hoping that after some more practice I'll be able to drop it into some really tight spots when needed. There are a lot of trees here! I wonder how long the stock motor will last on 3 cells?

Randy

[Greg D]

Got up this afternoon - perfect flying weather - COOL! Went to my clubs annual fly in, lots of complements on the neon color scheme. Yack a bit charge the batts, 2 great flights. Third flight air to myself, everybody watching and I'm having a ball! - make a wide sweeping turn to set up for a couple rolls..... plane starts to twitch rolls over dives in at full throttle all within about 1 second. Walk over to pick it up and the elevons are still twiching like mad. Other guy's tell me hits have been happing all day, aparently the Waite Medea station whose tower is by our field isn't monitoring they're out put properly - guess who I'll be talking to tomorrow; this is 2 now, they'll be buying this one! P.S. welcome the best Slinger thread on here Randy, and hey guys down in "flying wings" there's a guy thats catapulting his Slinger and has pics of it ya gotta check it out. Have fun and Keep Slinging It! (I'll be back!) :) P.s. Randy you must of benn typing at the same time as I was, gvr 4201 is running a stock Slinger motor (witch I believe is a "7.2 volt reverse rotation S400" I don't know how many hours he has on it but I think he's been running it a while. there's also some talk of 3s packs with S400s in a thread called brushless for a GP Slinger. :D

[Downwind3Zero]

Flew my Slinger first time yesterday! What a blast - so much fun! Couldn't resist putting an old brushless MPJ 25/35 w/o the gearbox in it. Man that thing moves!! Running on TP 2100 I get about 10 min flight - the TP cells are burning hot when I take them out though. Only negative is the narrow spacing in the cockpit and trying to get the Rx positioned without any twitching of the servos!
Chris

[Randy Due]

(witch I believe is a "7.2 volt reverse rotation S400" I don't know how many hours he has on it but I think he's been running it a while.

That's good news. I had hoped they put a 7.2v in it instead of a 6v. You can run a 7.2v for a while on 3 cells and I would think even longer if it's timed right. I bought a long can 400 for a replacement because they will run a really long time on 3 cells, but the balance would probably be off too much without adding nose weight, so maybe the stock motor will run long enough to justify replacing with it, since they are only $7 or $8 at Tower.

I just came in from my second full flight after getting it trimmed properly. This is a really good flying bird. Like I said before, I'm definitely not a proficient wing pilot (to say the least) but I had no trouble with this at all. Even a nice soft landing this time! :) My only real problem is aging eyes. I lose orientation easily and my depth perception is terrible....not good when flying near trees. At one point while flying away from me the thin wing just disappeared! Of course a small input made it reappear, but made my heart skip a beat. :eek: I know a different color schem would help tell top from bottom, but for me that only works at lower altitudes anyway. After a certain height all my planes sort of fade to black or just disappear.

Now if that green light on my charger would just hurry up! I need another pack or two! :D

Randy

[Greg D]

orientation can be a problem with the Slinger due to it's all white under side, had that problem with my first 2. Try adding some color (I used Neon) to the bottom it helps a ton! :D If you go back thru this thread there's a full description of my color scheme it's now hard to miss instead of hard to see.

[Randy Due]

Neon sounds good. That would probably help me a lot. I flew today with bright sunlight and that was much better than flying near dusk. Flown four full flights now and am improving every time. I wish I could learn to slow it down a bit for landing since I have only a short distance to come in at. So far it has showed to be very stable and very predictable. If I do lose it for a second, I just let go of the sticks and re-orient to get back in the game. This is the best money I've spent on this hobby in a while. What a blast!

Randy

[Randy Due]

Stock motor fried after 7 flights and 55 minutes on the 3cell lipos. :( Oh well, I stuck a long can sp400 in and re-balanced. I'll see how that works tomorrow. I had already ordered 5 stock replacement motors and they are on the way, but if the long can proves to work better, I'll just keep using them. It's drawing a little over 11 amps (well within its limits). I never checked the stock motor to see what it was drawing. Anyway, the sun was bright this evening so I could see the wing a lot better and the 5 minutes I got before cooking the motor was a blast! I was up about 150 ft. when it fried. No problem just gliding back in for a soft landing. I'm pleased with how this thing will handle with no power, even circling between the trees. Got a new 3 cell lipo in the mail today, so I can fly longer tomorrow!


Randy