Looking for new Heli

[Ben Zickel]

I'm looking for a heli to replace my Shuttle ZXX / OS 32 Ring combo because
it's somewhat underpowered for aerobatics.

I'm thinking going to a 50-60 class machine in the 600$US kit price range.

So the first thing I'm looking for is more power to weight ratio.
Here a list of power to weight ratios with OS engines:

Shuttle ZXX + OS 32 SX-H: 1.15BHP/2.4Kg = 0.48
Sceadu 50 + OS 50 SX-H: 1.8BHP/3.3Kg = 0.55
Ornith 46 + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.4Kg = 0.48
Freya 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.9Kg = 0.45
Fury + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.2Kg = 0.52
Kyosho Concept + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.085Kg = 0.53
Raptor 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.015Kg = 0.55

The Sceadu seems like the most powerful combo with an OS engine.

Are there any better Heli/Engine combos around?
Can the Sceadu 50 be fitted with a 60 engine?

Thx,
Ben

[Mark Derbyshire]

Ben Zickel came forth with the following in rec.models.rc.helicopter

> I'm looking for a heli to replace my Shuttle ZXX / OS 32 Ring combo
> because it's somewhat underpowered for aerobatics.
>

Get a Webra Speed 35. £80ish and it with transform the Shuttle. A little
bit of modding the fan shroud is required but it will be well worth it.


--

Mark
ZX12R-B1
Hiribo Shuttle, Webra Speed 35
Morley F1-60 Max

[david perry]

>
> Shuttle ZXX + OS 32 SX-H: 1.15BHP/2.4Kg = 0.48
> Sceadu 50 + OS 50 SX-H: 1.8BHP/3.3Kg = 0.55
> Ornith 46 + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.4Kg = 0.48
> Freya 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.9Kg = 0.45
> Fury + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.2Kg = 0.52
> Kyosho Concept + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.085Kg = 0.53
> Raptor 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.015Kg = 0.55
>
> The Sceadu seems like the most powerful combo with an OS engine.
>
>

Ben, not sure on yer maths here. The Sceadu and the Raptor 60 have the same
power:weight ratio. If it,s the P:W ratio that matters, and it probably is,
then buy the cheaper of the two. If its just power then the Freyer or the
Raptor. Oops, there's that Raptor again.

If you just want grunt then the mags seem to be promoting a lot of Turbines!

David

[Beav]

"Ben Zickel" <benz@rafael.co.il> wrote in message
news:newscache$o47efh$pn2$1@lnews.actcom.co.il...
> I'm looking for a heli to replace my Shuttle ZXX / OS 32 Ring combo
because
> it's somewhat underpowered for aerobatics.
>
> I'm thinking going to a 50-60 class machine in the 600$US kit price range.
>
> So the first thing I'm looking for is more power to weight ratio.
> Here a list of power to weight ratios with OS engines:
>
> Shuttle ZXX + OS 32 SX-H: 1.15BHP/2.4Kg = 0.48
> Sceadu 50 + OS 50 SX-H: 1.8BHP/3.3Kg = 0.55
> Ornith 46 + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.4Kg = 0.48
> Freya 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.9Kg = 0.45
> Fury + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.2Kg = 0.52
> Kyosho Concept + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.085Kg = 0.53
> Raptor 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.015Kg = 0.55
>
> The Sceadu seems like the most powerful combo with an OS engine.
>
> Are there any better Heli/Engine combos around?
> Can the Sceadu 50 be fitted with a 60 engine?

Get a Raptor 60 and shove a Rossi 60 in it. Starting point for the Rossi is
2.9bhp


--
Beav


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Beavisland now lives at
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[John]

Century HAWK for sure beats em' all!
"david perry" <david_perry@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > Shuttle ZXX + OS 32 SX-H: 1.15BHP/2.4Kg = 0.48
> > Sceadu 50 + OS 50 SX-H: 1.8BHP/3.3Kg = 0.55
> > Ornith 46 + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.4Kg = 0.48
> > Freya 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.9Kg = 0.45
> > Fury + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.2Kg = 0.52
> > Kyosho Concept + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.085Kg = 0.53
> > Raptor 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.015Kg = 0.55
> >
> > The Sceadu seems like the most powerful combo with an OS engine.
> >
> >
>
> Ben, not sure on yer maths here. The Sceadu and the Raptor 60 have the
same
> power:weight ratio. If it,s the P:W ratio that matters, and it probably
is,
> then buy the cheaper of the two. If its just power then the Freyer or the
> Raptor. Oops, there's that Raptor again.
>
> If you just want grunt then the mags seem to be promoting a lot of
Turbines!
>
> David
>
>
>

[Carl Farrington]

Mac wrote:
> Try http://www.rossimotors.it/english/rossien.htm
>>

yaaay! Thanks mate! I was googling for : 'rossi engine', 'rossi motor',
'rossi motor -nova' and still came up with nothing!

They should submit their website to some search engines!

[Carl Farrington]

Mac wrote:
> Try http://www.rossimotors.it/english/rossien.htm
>

I don't believe it! If you search for just 'rossi', it comes up. but
anything else like Rossi Motor brings up bollocks.

[Beav]

"Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
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> Mac wrote:
> > Try http://www.rossimotors.it/english/rossien.htm
> >
>
> I don't believe it! If you search for just 'rossi', it comes up. but
> anything else like Rossi Motor brings up bollocks.

Just type in Rossi engines.


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(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
>
>

[Tor Rasmussen]

How about the Raptor 50 V2.
It has most of the specs for a 30-size, but fitted with a 50 engine.

People says it act like a 30-size on stereoids.
The price, 380 USD at www.cyberheli.com

"Ben Zickel" <benz@rafael.co.il> wrote in message
news:newscache$o47efh$pn2$1@lnews.actcom.co.il...
> I'm looking for a heli to replace my Shuttle ZXX / OS 32 Ring combo
because
> it's somewhat underpowered for aerobatics.
>
> I'm thinking going to a 50-60 class machine in the 600$US kit price range.
>
> So the first thing I'm looking for is more power to weight ratio.
> Here a list of power to weight ratios with OS engines:
>
> Shuttle ZXX + OS 32 SX-H: 1.15BHP/2.4Kg = 0.48
> Sceadu 50 + OS 50 SX-H: 1.8BHP/3.3Kg = 0.55
> Ornith 46 + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.4Kg = 0.48
> Freya 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.9Kg = 0.45
> Fury + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.2Kg = 0.52
> Kyosho Concept + OS 46 FX-H: 1.62BHP/3.085Kg = 0.53
> Raptor 60 + OS 61 SX-H: 2.2BHP/4.015Kg = 0.55
>
> The Sceadu seems like the most powerful combo with an OS engine.
>
> Are there any better Heli/Engine combos around?
> Can the Sceadu 50 be fitted with a 60 engine?
>
> Thx,
> Ben
>
>
>

[Mac]

If you look hear http://www.ma.uk.com/frames/products-engines.htm you will
see the specs and who sells them.

--


Alex McEwan
www.RotorWash.co.uk


"Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
> news:barkd2$q2l$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> > Mac wrote:
> > > Try http://www.rossimotors.it/english/rossien.htm
> > >
> >
> > I don't believe it! If you search for just 'rossi', it comes up. but
> > anything else like Rossi Motor brings up bollocks.
>
> Just type in Rossi engines.
>
>
> --
> Beav
>
>
> Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
> (with the obvious changes)
>
> Beavisland now lives at
> www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
> >
> >
>
>

[Beav]

"Tor Rasmussen" <tor.rasmussen@tiscali.no> wrote in message
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> How about the Raptor 50 V2.
> It has most of the specs for a 30-size, but fitted with a 50 engine.
>
> People says it act like a 30-size on stereoids.

It IS a 30 on 'roids :-)

> The price, 380 USD at www.cyberheli.com

At that kind of money, it's a better bet than a 30 powered version. You
don't ALWAYS have to use all the power of the 50, but if you want it, and
all you've got is a 30, you'll find it "lacking".

You could even get a Rossi 53 in there!!! :-)


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(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[Beav]

"Mac" <Alex@rotorwash_dot.co.uk> wrote in message
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> If you look hear http://www.ma.uk.com/frames/products-engines.htm you will
> see the specs and who sells them.

First thing I noticed was the comment about "waisting" money:-))) I wonder
if that's a 32inch waste:-)))


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[Beav]

"Mac" <Alex@rotorwash_dot.co.uk> wrote in message
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> If you look hear http://www.ma.uk.com/frames/products-engines.htm you will
> see the specs and who sells them.

And that's where all my Rossi's came from too.

If you catch this Sean, are there any 80's still for sale?


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Beav


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[Ian McMillan]

Is the .53 a good motor for the Raptor Beav? Just curious because I was
thinking of trying one in my next ship to see how it compares with the OS
50.

Btw, I don't think you can beat Cyberheli for price and service. My last
kit took three days flat to arrive!

Ian


"Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tor Rasmussen" <tor.rasmussen@tiscali.no> wrote in message
> news:PMeAa.16120$YZ6.580768@news010.worldonline.dk ...
> > How about the Raptor 50 V2.
> > It has most of the specs for a 30-size, but fitted with a 50 engine.
> >
> > People says it act like a 30-size on stereoids.
>
> It IS a 30 on 'roids :-)
>
> > The price, 380 USD at www.cyberheli.com
>
> At that kind of money, it's a better bet than a 30 powered version. You
> don't ALWAYS have to use all the power of the 50, but if you want it, and
> all you've got is a 30, you'll find it "lacking".
>
> You could even get a Rossi 53 in there!!! :-)
>
>
> --
> Beav
>
>
> Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
> (with the obvious changes)
>
> Beavisland now lives at
> www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
>
>

[Beav]

"Ian McMillan" <ian.mcmillan63@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Is the .53 a good motor for the Raptor Beav?

The mounting and exhaust dimensions are the same as the OS Ian, but I don't
know about the rest coz I've never put one in a Raptor.

Just curious because I was
> thinking of trying one in my next ship to see how it compares with the OS
> 50.

That's an expensive comparison test for sure :-))



--
Beav


Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
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