C30 Featheing Shaft Bearings -

[Gp]

I've been thinking about replacing the feathering shaft bushings in my
Concept SR-X with the ball bearing kit (KYOE5010). I really can't see that
such an upgrade would make any functional improvement to the flapping
hinges, but BB's are ALWAYS better over bushings, right?

Gp

[Beav]

"Gp" <pinckneys@vei.net> wrote in message
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> I've been thinking about replacing the feathering shaft bushings in my
> Concept SR-X with the ball bearing kit (KYOE5010). I really can't see
that
> such an upgrade would make any functional improvement to the flapping
> hinges, but BB's are ALWAYS better over bushings, right?

Not in this case Greg.The bushes work perfectly well and the needle bearingi
upgrade is just an expense with no real benefit. I've used both and there's
absolutely NO difference when the thing's up in th'air. A blob of grease on
the bushes keeps them in perfectly servicable order, so unless yours are
knackered, I'd just grease 'em and re-fit 'em.


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[Gp]

"Beav" wrote:

>> I've been thinking about replacing the feathering shaft bushings in my
>> Concept SR-X with the ball bearing kit (KYOE5010). I really can't see
>> that such an upgrade would make any functional improvement to the
flapping
>> hinges, but BB's are ALWAYS better over bushings, right?
>
> Not in this case Greg.The bushes work perfectly well and the needle
bearingi
> upgrade is just an expense with no real benefit. I've used both and
there's
> absolutely NO difference when the thing's up in th'air. A blob of grease
on
> the bushes keeps them in perfectly servicable order, so unless yours are
> knackered, I'd just grease 'em and re-fit 'em.

That's what I figured. I've been flying it with the stock bushings since it
was new and guess I'll just leave things alone. I just felt the urge to
throw some money at my poor neglected Concept to show her I stilled cared.

Gp

[Beav]

"Gp" <pinckneys@vei.net> wrote in message
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> "Beav" wrote:
>
> >> I've been thinking about replacing the feathering shaft bushings in my
> >> Concept SR-X with the ball bearing kit (KYOE5010). I really can't see
> >> that such an upgrade would make any functional improvement to the
> flapping
> >> hinges, but BB's are ALWAYS better over bushings, right?
> >
> > Not in this case Greg.The bushes work perfectly well and the needle
> bearingi
> > upgrade is just an expense with no real benefit. I've used both and
> there's
> > absolutely NO difference when the thing's up in th'air. A blob of grease
> on
> > the bushes keeps them in perfectly servicable order, so unless yours are
> > knackered, I'd just grease 'em and re-fit 'em.
>
> That's what I figured. I've been flying it with the stock bushings since
it
> was new and guess I'll just leave things alone. I just felt the urge to
> throw some money at my poor neglected Concept to show her I stilled cared.

Get a VR head for it, and on the flybar cradle, fit an opposing ball on the
other side of the cradle (there's only one each side as standard). Then make
up a "Y" link so the link going from the mixer arms to the flybar connects
to both balls on the flybar cradle and the one on the mixer.

This gets rid of any rotational movement of the mixer base once and for all.
(Crabbed from MHW that btw, but it works, so I thought I'd mention it)

Another mod is the servo tray. The VR version is a lot more rigid, so the
heli has a more locked in feel.

That should get rid of a few dollars :-))


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Beav


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(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
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[Gp]

"Beav" wrote:

> Get a VR head for it, and on the flybar cradle, fit an opposing ball on
the
> other side of the cradle (there's only one each side as standard). Then
make
> up a "Y" link so the link going from the mixer arms to the flybar connects
> to both balls on the flybar cradle and the one on the mixer.
>
> This gets rid of any rotational movement of the mixer base once and for
all.
> (Crabbed from MHW that btw, but it works, so I thought I'd mention it)

Sweet!!! I've already got the Zeal aluminum seesaw with single steel balls
on each arm, so it looks like an easy mod to drill and tap the holes for two
additional balls. But what's the preferred way to make a Y-link?

Gp

[Beav]

"Gp" <pinckneys@vei.net> wrote in message
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> "Beav" wrote:
>
> > Get a VR head for it, and on the flybar cradle, fit an opposing ball on
> the
> > other side of the cradle (there's only one each side as standard). Then
> make
> > up a "Y" link so the link going from the mixer arms to the flybar
connects
> > to both balls on the flybar cradle and the one on the mixer.
> >
> > This gets rid of any rotational movement of the mixer base once and for
> all.
> > (Crabbed from MHW that btw, but it works, so I thought I'd mention it)
>
> Sweet!!! I've already got the Zeal aluminum seesaw with single steel
balls
> on each arm, so it looks like an easy mod to drill and tap the holes for
two
> additional balls. But what's the preferred way to make a Y-link?

I made a pair with three pieces of wire (each) and a soldering gun. That way
I had 3 pre-threaded ends and the job looked very neat and wasn't about to
fall apart. I wrapped the joint with fine copper wire before I soldered too.
That's two rods with a single 170 degree bend in each and a single straight
piece. Piss easy to make and perfect for the Zeal see-saw.



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Beavisland now lives at
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[Blair Stearn]

Yo Beav,

Snap a pic....I want to see it.

How's the SE treating you. I buggered the clutch
in my Milli the other day..just installing a spare as I type.

Later,

Blair







On Fri, 23 May 2003 22:22:23 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote:

>
>"Gp" <pinckneys@vei.net> wrote in message
>news:l9-cnS572YSYgVOjXTWcrg@veiinternet.net...
>> "Beav" wrote:
>>
>> > Get a VR head for it, and on the flybar cradle, fit an opposing ball on
>> the
>> > other side of the cradle (there's only one each side as standard). Then
>> make
>> > up a "Y" link so the link going from the mixer arms to the flybar
>connects
>> > to both balls on the flybar cradle and the one on the mixer.
>> >
>> > This gets rid of any rotational movement of the mixer base once and for
>> all.
>> > (Crabbed from MHW that btw, but it works, so I thought I'd mention it)
>>
>> Sweet!!! I've already got the Zeal aluminum seesaw with single steel
>balls
>> on each arm, so it looks like an easy mod to drill and tap the holes for
>two
>> additional balls. But what's the preferred way to make a Y-link?
>
>I made a pair with three pieces of wire (each) and a soldering gun. That way
>I had 3 pre-threaded ends and the job looked very neat and wasn't about to
>fall apart. I wrapped the joint with fine copper wire before I soldered too.
>That's two rods with a single 170 degree bend in each and a single straight
>piece. Piss easy to make and perfect for the Zeal see-saw.

[martin]

You must be very skilled, installing a clutch while typing newsgroup
replies!


"Blair Stearn" <milli-pilotantispam@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Yo Beav,
>
> Snap a pic....I want to see it.
>
> How's the SE treating you. I buggered the clutch
> in my Milli the other day..just installing a spare as I type.
>
> Later,
>
> Blair
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 23 May 2003 22:22:23 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Gp" <pinckneys@vei.net> wrote in message
> >news:l9-cnS572YSYgVOjXTWcrg@veiinternet.net...
> >> "Beav" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Get a VR head for it, and on the flybar cradle, fit an opposing ball
on
> >> the
> >> > other side of the cradle (there's only one each side as standard).
Then
> >> make
> >> > up a "Y" link so the link going from the mixer arms to the flybar
> >connects
> >> > to both balls on the flybar cradle and the one on the mixer.
> >> >
> >> > This gets rid of any rotational movement of the mixer base once and
for
> >> all.
> >> > (Crabbed from MHW that btw, but it works, so I thought I'd mention
it)
> >>
> >> Sweet!!! I've already got the Zeal aluminum seesaw with single steel
> >balls
> >> on each arm, so it looks like an easy mod to drill and tap the holes
for
> >two
> >> additional balls. But what's the preferred way to make a Y-link?
> >
> >I made a pair with three pieces of wire (each) and a soldering gun. That
way
> >I had 3 pre-threaded ends and the job looked very neat and wasn't about
to
> >fall apart. I wrapped the joint with fine copper wire before I soldered
too.
> >That's two rods with a single 170 degree bend in each and a single
straight
> >piece. Piss easy to make and perfect for the Zeal see-saw.
>

[Beav]

"Blair Stearn" <milli-pilotantispam@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:0fkvcvougeuen15dgaggm536pfq6fu31v0@4ax.com...
>
> Yo Beav,
>
> Snap a pic....I want to see it.

No probs Blair.
>
> How's the SE treating you.

When I'm flying, it's treating me very well, but the weather hasn't been
ultra co-operative of late. When it's not blowing a bastard gale, it's
pissing down :-)

I buggered the clutch
> in my Milli the other day..just installing a spare as I type.

How'd you manage to bugger the Milli clutch? Starting in Idle up 100?:-)



--
Beav


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(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[Beav]

"martin" <martin@rcflyers.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> You must be very skilled, installing a clutch while typing newsgroup
> replies!

That's NO problem to a heli flyer :-)


--
Beav


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(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[Blair Stearn]

On Sun, 25 May 2003 09:56:17 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote:

>
>"Blair Stearn" <milli-pilotantispam@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:0fkvcvougeuen15dgaggm536pfq6fu31v0@4ax.com...
>>
>> Yo Beav,
>>
>> Snap a pic....I want to see it.
>
>No probs Blair.
>>
>> How's the SE treating you.
>
>When I'm flying, it's treating me very well, but the weather hasn't been
>ultra co-operative of late. When it's not blowing a bastard gale, it's
>pissing down :-)
>
> I buggered the clutch
>> in my Milli the other day..just installing a spare as I type.
>
>How'd you manage to bugger the Milli clutch? Starting in Idle up 100?:-)


Hi Beav,

Beats the hell out of me.

I'm running a YS 91 so that might have something to do with it ;-)

I had a clutch bell bearing going bad (made my ears bleed), then it
just went.

Off to try a new one.

Later,

Blair

(Beavis' illegitimate love child).