Can you believe anybody could be this dumb???

[PC]

I just came across this video here:
http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv

It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[Andy Linney]

OH MY GOD
I fly my Raptor better than that with only a few flights under my belt.


"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.191e51242a3d207098969b@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[SRS]

Here's the accident report from this event... in case you're interested..
http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20001213X30727&key=1


Steve w8an

PC wrote:
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[Gordon Dunn]

Unbelievable!!!! This displays a total disregard for the safety of others
and himself. I dont know anyone who would even try this with a model, never
mind a full sizer.

GD


"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.191e51242a3d207098969b@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[Steve Whitefoot]

People like that should be put on an island in the middle of the Atlantic
away from everyone else.

Unfortunately, the island would soon become over crowded, because they say
that there's one born every minute. Now that's scary.

Steve

"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.191e51242a3d207098969b@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[Beav]

"Gordon Dunn" <mail@NOSPAMgordondunn.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b92itg$chh$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Unbelievable!!!! This displays a total disregard for the safety of others
> and himself. I dont know anyone who would even try this with a model,
never
> mind a full sizer.

You live in a very different world to me then Gordon. If you'd seen the
number of people I've said "Do NOT think you can fly this" go out and do
exactly what the guy in the video did, you'd have to do some re-thinkink.

They number is legion!


--
Beav


Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[Beav]

"Steve Whitefoot" <steve@whitefoot.me.uk> wrote in message
news:b92jpf$3qu$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> People like that should be put on an island in the middle of the Atlantic
> away from everyone else.

They were. It's called Great Britain:)
>
> Unfortunately, the island would soon become over crowded, because they say
> that there's one born every minute. Now that's scary.

And true.



--
Beav


Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[Nick M V Salmon]

"PC" <F@you.com> wrote
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd be horrified to see someone do that with a model, letalone full scale...

Gobsmacked is the least of it. :-(

[UK]_Nick...
--
Nick M V Salmon Master Mariner MN(Retd.)

My four initials@btinternet.com

[Nigel]

More proof that Darwin got it right!

regards

Nigel


"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.191e51242a3d207098969b@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[First Name]

"Steve Whitefoot" <steve@whitefoot.me.uk> wrote in message
news:b92jpf$3qu$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> People like that should be put on an island in the middle of the Atlantic
> away from everyone else.

Hey!!! I was stationed there :) It's called the Azores.

[Tim]

"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.191e51242a3d207098969b@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

I bet the owners of the other aircraft parked nearby were pleased...the one
the cameraman is lurking behind appeared to get hit by something. We all
know how expensive model aircraft are; just think how expensive it is to
repair full size ones!


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[Oliver]

I feel for the helicopter

the pilot can go to hell :o


A bit off subject but yesterday on the tv program, "you'v been framed", a
small aircraft with floats (don't know what it was) aproached to land on the
water, with the wheels down. Sure enough it hit the water and fliped right
over. proably more of an innocent mistake with bad concequence, than a
looser for a pilot.

Two people got out and sat on the upside down floats presumibaly still
atached to the plane, and were trying to padel it to the shore.

Oliver


"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.191e51242a3d207098969b@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[PC]

In article <b93upp$foa$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
mail@NOSPAMgordondunn.co.uk says...
> That 'pilot' is a real loser- he can't even manage a Darwin award!!
>

Initially when I saw it, I was in total disbelief -- I really was. I
thought somebody had stolen it and no-one dared get close to it to stop
him or something. It's the type of thing a thick ****** thief would do
after watching too many Bond movies and thinking he can fly it like it's
no big deal.

[PC]

In article <b942ll$p9b$1@hercules.btinternet.com>, oliver@raincode.co.uk
says...
> I feel for the helicopter
>
> the pilot can go to hell :o

Yeah, I tell ya, if I never saw that vid for myself I wouldn't have
believed it if someone told me about it. Then again, with the sort of
people I see driving cars, I don't think it would surprise me too much.
:)

Perhaps we should recall what Einstein said: "Only two things are
infinite, the Universe and human stupidity..." :)

[Gordon Dunn]

Just a thought I had there- and a cross ref to one of the other threads {OT}
Real Helicopters- Remember the film 'Biggles'< I think it came out in the
90's- The hero 'Biggles' somehow got transported to the 90's London from the
World War 1 era, well he used a helicopter as a getaway vehicle- bearing in
mind he would never have seen one before to be technically correct- he was
able to fly it in an extraordinary manner- without even an inkling of the
principles of helicopter flight or basic mechanics. To quote him in the
film- 'if you can fly a Sopwith Pup, you can fly anything' Somehow I doubt
it....... More like if you can fly a Hirobo Shuttle you can fly a sopwith
pup.


GD



"Oliver" <oliver@raincode.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b942ll$p9b$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> I feel for the helicopter
>
> the pilot can go to hell :o
>
>
> A bit off subject but yesterday on the tv program, "you'v been framed",
a
> small aircraft with floats (don't know what it was) aproached to land on
the
> water, with the wheels down. Sure enough it hit the water and fliped right
> over. proably more of an innocent mistake with bad concequence, than a
> looser for a pilot.
>
> Two people got out and sat on the upside down floats presumibaly still
> atached to the plane, and were trying to padel it to the shore.
>
> Oliver
>
>
> "PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.191e51242a3d207098969b@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> > I just came across this video here:
> > http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
> >
> > It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> > fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on
in
> > his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> > risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.
>
>

[Dave Maxwell]

I tried to look at this clip but it just downloaded as a garbled text file
that windows
media player can't open. Help please.
Thanks
Dave

PC wrote:

> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[Nick M V Salmon]

"Gordon Dunn" <mail@NOSPAMgordondunn.co.uk> wrote
> Just a thought I had there- and a cross ref to one of the other
> threads {OT} Real Helicopters- Remember the film 'Biggles'
> I think it came out in the 90's- The hero 'Biggles' somehow
> got transported to the 90's London from the World War 1 era,
> well he used a helicopter as a getaway vehicle- bearing in
> mind he would never have seen one before to be technically
> correct- he was able to fly it in an extraordinary manner- without
> even an inkling of the principles of helicopter flight or basic
> mechanics. To quote him in the film- 'if you can fly a Sopwith
> Pup, you can fly anything' Somehow I doubt it....... More like
> if you can fly a Hirobo Shuttle you can fly a sopwith pup.

Now if Biggles had said 'Sopwith Camel' then it might have been a little
more believable - the 'Pup' was a teddybear compared to the 'Camel' from all
I have read - the Camel was apparently completely unstable in flight thus
needing constant 'tweaking' rather than flying itself, that sound familar.
;-) AFAICR they lost a LOT of pilots trying to make the switch from pups
to camels...

[I'm not seriously suggesting anybody could move from flying _any_ plank
straight to succesfully flying a helicopter but some of those WW1 birds were
not easy to fly...]

Ciao...

[UK]_Nick...
--
Nick M V Salmon Master Mariner MN(Retd.)

My four initials@btinternet.com

[Steve Whitefoot]

Come on Beav that's a bit harsh, don't you think.

People weren't sent here, they come here out of choice. So much so, that
they built the Channel Tunnel for the ones that didn't like sailing.

Steve

"Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
news:Kb6ta.1331282$yn2.207767@post-03.news.easynews.com...
>
> "Steve Whitefoot" <steve@whitefoot.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:b92jpf$3qu$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> > People like that should be put on an island in the middle of the
Atlantic
> > away from everyone else.
>
> They were. It's called Great Britain:)
> >
> > Unfortunately, the island would soon become over crowded, because they
say
> > that there's one born every minute. Now that's scary.
>
> And true.
>
>
>
> --
> Beav
>
>
> Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
> (with the obvious changes)
>
> Beavisland now lives at
> www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
>
>

[Beav]

"Steve Whitefoot" <steve@whitefoot.me.uk> wrote in message
news:b955ik$gl$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> Come on Beav that's a bit harsh, don't you think.

No way.
>
> People weren't sent here, they come here out of choice.

They walked from Europe in the year dot, and before they knew it, this
little bit snapped off and left 'em stranded. They only came out of
curiosity but found their escape route blocked by a heavily used sea lane:)

So much so, that
> they built the Channel Tunnel for the ones that didn't like sailing.

That was built so escape was easy:-)


--
Beav


Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[Chris Watkins]

Dave Maxwell wrote:
>
> I tried to look at this clip but it just downloaded as a garbled text file
> that windows
> media player can't open. Help please.
> Thanks
> Dave

You'll need to update your version of Windows media player, perhaps.
Right click on the link and "save link as" something you will remember.
Double-click the link from there, or browse to it in the media player.

--
Chris

[Steve Simpson]

> little bit snapped off and left 'em stranded. They only came out of
> curiosity but found their escape route blocked by a heavily used sea
lane:)
>

'curiosity' . . . . definition: 'the sheep are prettier' . . :-)

[Beav]

"Steve Simpson" <simpsons34@NIXcox.net> wrote in message
news:ujwta.1270$fm4.345@fed1read06...
>
> > little bit snapped off and left 'em stranded. They only came out of
> > curiosity but found their escape route blocked by a heavily used sea
> lane:)
> >
>
> 'curiosity' . . . . definition: 'the sheep are prettier' . . :-)

They KNEW the sheep were prettier, but they wanted to know what rain was:)


--
Beav


Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[Andy Fell]

Begs the question.. the first person to ever fly a heli must of been a
nutter!. I wonder how they went about it.. Anyone know?

Andy

On Sat, 3 May 2003 23:21:15 +0100, PC <F@you.com> wrote:

>I just came across this video here:
>http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
>It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
>fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
>his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
>risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.

[Alan Rait]

Watch the Discovery Channel and you're BOUND to find out!

--
Alan

alanDOTrait@btopenworldDOTcom
Replace the DOTS to reply

http://heliweb.users.btopenworld.com/


"Andy Fell" <andy_fell@NSbigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:fuddbvs4v4cbe7gbg8n1ed08cdt03qniqe@4ax.com...
>
>
> Begs the question.. the first person to ever fly a heli must of been a
> nutter!. I wonder how they went about it.. Anyone know?
>
> Andy
>
> On Sat, 3 May 2003 23:21:15 +0100, PC <F@you.com> wrote:
>
> >I just came across this video here:
> >http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
> >
> >It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> >fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> >his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> >risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.
>

[Andy Fell]

Mmm, I nt have that channel. monthly subscriptions seems to be spend
on heli parts these days!

Andy


On Mon, 5 May 2003 19:21:49 +0000 (UTC), "Alan Rait"
<alanDOTrait@btopenworldDOT.com> wrote:

>Watch the Discovery Channel and you're BOUND to find out!

[Patrick Free]

In article <vb8s1msi3hb4a8@corp.supernews.com>,
sstuart@NOSPAM.glasscity.net says...
> PC wrote:
> > I just came across this video here:
> > http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
> >
> > It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> > fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> > his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> > risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.
>
>

What was really interesting about this was that it looked the same as
when I first tried to hover a simulator RC heli -- the tal swinging
around, and the sideways tipping as the throttle comes up.

He should have spent more time in the simulator. :-)

Patrick

[Rhodesst]

>Begs the question.. the first person to ever fly a heli must of been a
>nutter!. I wonder how they went about it.. Anyone know?
>
>Andy
>

I saw a program either on The Discover Channel or the local PBS station on
Sikorsky's development of the helicopter. He designed it, built it, and
learned to fly it, one step at a time. I've been trying to find it in VHS or
DVD but am not having much luck. I did find a book, "Helicopter: Pioneering
with Igor Sikorsky" on Amazon.com that looks interesting. The link is:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1853107689/qid=1052167427/sr
=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-9832797-5640042?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

To say that Mr. Sikorsky was a gifted man is a gross understatement. He taught
himself to fly the very machine he was designing. Not many in the world, ever,
can make that claim. I once heard a quote that allegedly came from Mr.
Sikorsky in reference to test pilots. I don't remember the exact wording but
the gist was that the only people who should be allowed to test fly a new
aircraft design should be the engineer that designed it. That way, the good
ones get better and the bad ones illiminate themselves as a matter of course.

Sounded appropriate to me! ;-)

Fly Safe,
Steve R.

[Rob Plourde Jr.]

I saw a long time ago, a series of shows called 'Choppers', which I think
was on the Discovery channel. I even taped some of them. Don't know if I
still have the tapes.


"Rhodesst" <rhodesst@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030505165340.04615.00001009@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >Begs the question.. the first person to ever fly a heli must of been a
> >nutter!. I wonder how they went about it.. Anyone know?
> >
> >Andy
> >
>
> I saw a program either on The Discover Channel or the local PBS station on
> Sikorsky's development of the helicopter. He designed it, built it, and
> learned to fly it, one step at a time. I've been trying to find it in VHS
or
> DVD but am not having much luck. I did find a book, "Helicopter:
Pioneering
> with Igor Sikorsky" on Amazon.com that looks interesting. The link is:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1853107689/qid=1052167427/sr
> =8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-9832797-5640042?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> To say that Mr. Sikorsky was a gifted man is a gross understatement. He
taught
> himself to fly the very machine he was designing. Not many in the world,
ever,
> can make that claim. I once heard a quote that allegedly came from Mr.
> Sikorsky in reference to test pilots. I don't remember the exact wording
but
> the gist was that the only people who should be allowed to test fly a new
> aircraft design should be the engineer that designed it. That way, the
good
> ones get better and the bad ones illiminate themselves as a matter of
course.
>
> Sounded appropriate to me! ;-)
>
> Fly Safe,
> Steve R.

[Beav]

"Andy Fell" <andy_fell@NSbigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:fuddbvs4v4cbe7gbg8n1ed08cdt03qniqe@4ax.com...
>
>
> Begs the question.. the first person to ever fly a heli must of been a
> nutter!. I wonder how they went about it.. Anyone know?

Did you never see the video where Bells chief test pilot flew the first ever
Bell machine (ship 1)? He declined to use the seat belt in the open cockpit
heli (on training legs exactly like the models use) but after he was bounced
out of the seat, into the rotor blades and thrown out the side, I suspect he
wished he hadn't been so cocky.

Fortunately he got away with a broken wrist.

The Sikorsky guys fared better, then Igor's pilot (other than himself)
designed the now common "Swedish Yoke" which allowed a real element of
control.



--
Beav


Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk

[PC]

In article <uBAta.50206$vU3.47485@news1.central.cox.net>, robp@nomail.com
says...
> I saw a long time ago, a series of shows called 'Choppers', which I think
> was on the Discovery channel. I even taped some of them. Don't know if I
> still have the tapes.

Me too. I taped every one of that series. I love it. It showed the very
early developments of the Bell helicopter, built by Arthur Young and
Larry Bell and team... What Arthur did was to build a model first to try
out new ideas, and even a bit of practice on the controls to get an idea
of how it handled before going full scale.

Sikorsky was indeed a very gifted man. Prior to his helicopter
pioneering, he also built fixed-wing aircraft. This was in the days when
there were no flight sims or anyone who had any experience to teach him
what to do. How do you know whether your machine design is at fault or
your lack of skills are at fault in these very early stages of
development?

I know from watching the Choppers series that those involved in early
helicopter design were very brave people indeed. Imagine if something
went wrong when you're sat inside a full-scale heli when you are still
testing it in the developing stage. What if the thing suddenly started to
rise and kept rising with you in it? What if it keeps going to one side
without being able to stop it? Must have been very scary in those days.

[PC]

In article <fuddbvs4v4cbe7gbg8n1ed08cdt03qniqe@4ax.com>,
andy_fell@NSbigfoot.com says...
>
>
> Begs the question.. the first person to ever fly a heli must of been a
> nutter!. I wonder how they went about it.. Anyone know?


They were not nutters for sure. They were extremely careful (or at least
the pioneers I know about were). The difference is, is that the people
involved with early helicopters knew the risks, but they had chosen to do
it because they knew the great importance of such a vehicle.

The nutter in that video you saw doesn't have any credible reason to be
doing what he did. These days there are people to teach you how to fly
safely, and flight sims to help out too. In those days people hadn't a
clue how to fly, but that doesn't mean they were nutters because they
went about learning to very carefully, in little steps.

[PC]

In article <MPG.192082c4a6e2d54a989759@news-server>, pfree@nukem.com
says...
> In article <vb8s1msi3hb4a8@corp.supernews.com>,
> sstuart@NOSPAM.glasscity.net says...
> > PC wrote:
> > > I just came across this video here:
> > > http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
> > >
> > > It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> > > fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> > > his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> > > risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.
> >
> >
>
> What was really interesting about this was that it looked the same as
> when I first tried to hover a simulator RC heli -- the tal swinging
> around, and the sideways tipping as the throttle comes up.

Same as the first time I tried my model. Luckily I had training gear to
stop it crashing... he didn't. :)

> He should have spent more time in the simulator. :-)

Or someone should have told him what those pedals are for. :)

[Beav]

"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1921afaaa3439bee9896a1@text.news.ntlworld .com...
> In article <uBAta.50206$vU3.47485@news1.central.cox.net>, robp@nomail.com
> says...
> > I saw a long time ago, a series of shows called 'Choppers', which I
think
> > was on the Discovery channel. I even taped some of them. Don't know if
I
> > still have the tapes.
>
> Me too. I taped every one of that series. I love it. It showed the very
> early developments of the Bell helicopter, built by Arthur Young and
> Larry Bell and team... What Arthur did was to build a model first to try
> out new ideas, and even a bit of practice on the controls to get an idea
> of how it handled before going full scale.
>
> Sikorsky was indeed a very gifted man. Prior to his helicopter
> pioneering, he also built fixed-wing aircraft. This was in the days when
> there were no flight sims or anyone who had any experience to teach him
> what to do. How do you know whether your machine design is at fault or
> your lack of skills are at fault in these very early stages of
> development?
>
> I know from watching the Choppers series that those involved in early
> helicopter design were very brave people indeed. Imagine if something
> went wrong when you're sat inside a full-scale heli when you are still
> testing it in the developing stage. What if the thing suddenly started to
> rise and kept rising with you in it?

That was a problem with the Rotorway heli's which used a non symmetrical
blade, (including the original Execs). Get the CG of the blade too far
rearwards (quite easy to do) and the first pull on the collective could well
be your last, as the lever was impossible to push back down. The advise was
to tether the heli so it couldn't climb too far, and if the blades "worked
as advertised", then and ONLY then, remove the tethers.

I think the problem lay more in the building of the blades than the design,
but now you can get almost ready to fly blades, so I'd suspect the problem
is no more. It'd be interesting to hear from any recent Exec owners though.


What if it keeps going to one side
> without being able to stop it? Must have been very scary in those days.

For the guys in the "experimental" flying machine hobby, it probably still
is :-)


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Beav


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[Kerlutinoec]

Woaw !

This guy had a lot of chance ! Maybe it'a a "mentally chalenged" thief
(he saw too much James Bond films:)

I think he has some notions of what pilotage is, because it seems he
uses the tail rotor correctly (I mean, he USES it and in the good
direction). Maybe this guy know how to fly a plane. But he will need a lot
of helis to be a helicopter pilot :)


"Dave Maxwell" <dmaxwell@netrover.com> a écrit dans le message news:
3EB5C772.36AB60CA@netrover.com...
> I tried to look at this clip but it just downloaded as a garbled text file
> that windows
> media player can't open. Help please.
> Thanks
> Dave
>
> PC wrote:
>
> > I just came across this video here:
> > http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
> >
> > It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> > fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on
in
> > his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> > risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.
>

[PC]

In article <b9bhdt$ggj$1@news-reader13.wanadoo.fr>, gibet.l@wanadoo.fr
says...
> Woaw !
>
> This guy had a lot of chance ! Maybe it'a a "mentally chalenged" thief
> (he saw too much James Bond films:)

That's almost exactly what I said in another recent post. :)

> I think he has some notions of what pilotage is, because it seems he
> uses the tail rotor correctly (I mean, he USES it and in the good
> direction). Maybe this guy know how to fly a plane. But he will need a lot
> of helis to be a helicopter pilot :)

Hahaha! Yeah, too true. :)

Guess he never heard of flight sims. This was a while ago, so I wonder if
he DID actually get another heli and was able to 'fly' it for longer
than... 14 seconds like he did in this video? :)

I doubt he did though...

[flyguy]

My Window's Media Player couldn't open this 'WMV' file. What version
does it take?

PC wrote:
>
> I just came across this video here:
> http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
>
> It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on in
> his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.


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[PC]

In article <3EB97143.65182587@bluesky.net>, flyguy@bluesky.net says...
> My Window's Media Player couldn't open this 'WMV' file. What version
> does it take?

I know it works with version 7.1.

Try saving the file, then opening it; or pasting the URL into your
player's 'Open URL' option and see if that helps!

If not, keep trying it as that can also help sometimes.

[Oliver]

Try opening in with the basic 'Windows Media Player'. Right click -> open
with -> choose program -> Windows Media Player (with the old icon). If that
works then there is probably something wrong with you media player. If not
then you may need an update.


Version 9 is the latest, if you want to try it here are a few links, but its
about a 15MB download

For Windows 98 second edition, ME and 2000 click here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e0175119-9a5b-44c3-
b1de-9b2a9aa6cff6&DisplayLang=en

For Windows XP click here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b47fa121-6c38-4152-
9b19-fa40b45a1042&DisplayLang=en


Oliver



"flyguy" <flyguy@bluesky.net> wrote in message
news:3EB97143.65182587@bluesky.net...
> My Window's Media Player couldn't open this 'WMV' file. What version
> does it take?
>
> PC wrote:
> >
> > I just came across this video here:
> > http://born2net.tempdomainname.com/download_files/HughesCrashed.wmv
> >
> > It shows a guy who has never flown a full-scale heli get in and try to
> > fly it first time. As you'd expect it ends in tears. What was going on
in
> > his head to make him think he could fly it without any flight time and
> > risk his life trying? I am honestly gobsmacked at this.
>
>
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