PIPER CUB Clipped Wing 1/4 scale SIG kit -

[Davide72]

Hello!!
Finally here in south italy we got winter!! Summer finally is over..yes no more swimming no more beauty on beach but too no more sweaty and no more mosquitos!! :censored: :censored:
But the first reason i am happy for the cold season it's because i will start with my new kit i bought from USA, SIG PIPER CUB Clipped Wing 1/4 scale :D :D .
It's a huge box very very heavy as i never get :eek:
For me this is the second kit i build, the first was a Top Flite p-40 red box "u can see the building loog in here too" but i have the precius help from my uncle Tom!
I can say this kit it's really nice, very good wood quality, clear plans and a detail manual..unfortunally for me only in english..i think my english it's fine but i have problem for technical words..so..i hope guys you will help me with words i cant translate..
I started to work with fusolage how guide tell..and i can say it's very funny..the best way for practice with sanding paper!! :D
Uncle Tom make give me a tips, we build the second side of the fusolage not on the plans but on the top of the first fusolage, this is the best way for have 2 perfect sides..haaa over 40yrs experince make the difference!
Here you will see some photos..
Regards
David

[EJWash1]

David,

Looks like your Uncle Tom has you pointed in the right direction. The fuselage construction is primo!

Subscribed.

EJWash

[gustavochacha]

Congratulations David, is a exelent model !! happy constructions!!
Gustavo

[Davide72]

David,

Looks like your Uncle Tom has you pointed in the right direction. The fuselage construction is primo!

Subscribed.

EJWash
Thx so much! I follow with great interest your build log of Citabria..very very clean work :eek: :eek: !!
David

[Davide72]

Congratulations David, is a exelent model !! happy constructions!!
Gustavo

Thx Gustavo! :o

[Cloud Cruiser]

Congrats David.

I have always enjoyed Sig kits.

Robert

[bgfireman]

Davide72,
I cant wait to see how this turns out for you. I built the 1/5 scale sig cub. I wish I had bought the 1/4. I have two sig kits and each were very easy builds. Here is a picture of my two sigs.

[EJWash1]

Thx so much! I follow with great interest your build log of Citabria..very very clean work :eek: :eek: !!
Thanks for that.

I always learn something from the build threads and look forward to picking up some tips from your build.

As far as the topic of language, you have to pass along some phrases alla Italiano. It's only fair! :D

EJWash

[Davide72]

Davide72,
I cant wait to see how this turns out for you. I built the 1/5 scale sig cub. I wish I had bought the 1/4. I have two sig kits and each were very easy builds. Here is a picture of my two sigs.
Wow very niceeeeee!! i hope to do good as you did :)
David

[Davide72]

Thanks for that.

I always learn something from the build threads and look forward to picking up some tips from your build.

As far as the topic of language, you have to pass along some phrases alla Italiano. It's only fair! :D

EJWash
You will not belive me but..i am half american"my dad side" i worked few months in NC "Lake norman Aerea" but that was 10 years a go and i forget language without practice :(
I missed so much your country, when i was there i never missed my coutry!!
You are really great people very hospitable!!
Here you will see how i renforced the face tail fusolage..
David

[EJWash1]

i worked few months in NC "Lake norman Aerea" but that was 10 years a go and i forget language without practice :(
Lake Norman - "Piedmont Pond"!

I take it that you had to cut quite a few fuselage gussets.

EJWash

[Davide72]

Lake Norman - "Piedmont Pond"!

I take it that you had to cut quite a few fuselage gussets.

EJWash
No..Lake Norma Charlotte area...what's wrong with my fusolage??

[bgfireman]

I think EJ is making a joke. Charlotte is in the piedmont area of NC. I think he also meant you had to cut a lot of gussets for all those stick joints. Looking good so far.
Alan

[Davide72]

I think EJ is making a joke. Charlotte is in the piedmont area of NC. I think he also meant you had to cut a lot of gussets for all those stick joints. Looking good so far.
Alan
Haa ok now i understand!! sorry i feel silly but understand me i am italian and my english it's poor!!! :(

[EJWash1]

No..Lake Norma Charlotte area
Lake Norman has the nickname "Piedmont Pond" because of all the Piedmont Airlines folks that live out there (local joke).
what's wrong with my fusolage??
Wrong? Nothing! Your fuselage looks great! The gussets are all individually cut out and look great. It appears that there are a lot of them. No joke there.

EJWash

[Mode One]

EJ, did you notice, in Italy, they use clamps to make glue joints?

David, this is a an inside joke between EJ and I!

Looks like a fun build! The SIG 1/4th scale J-3 Cub flys very well! Have fun!!

[Davide72]

I post here some pics of fusolage i am going to complete...one question, if someone can tell me what's the "CROSSFIRE" i see on the plan there are draw some of this pieces but i cant find in the manual, so i dont know what they are and where they need ..i will post a photo of the plan..
Have a great day
David

[TomCrump]

Nice work ! Someday, I'll build a large Cub, too.

Mode One: We use clamps in Michigan, too. I hear that they are not very popular in Canada, though. :D

[Mode One]

Tom, Up here in Minnesota, an R/Cer is measured by the amount of clamps he has on hand, which we always find to be about 1/2 of what we need!

[Davide72]

Tom, Up here in Minnesota, an R/Cer is measured by the amount of clamps he has on hand, which we always find to be about 1/2 of what we need!
What's clamps??

[EJWash1]

What's clamps??
The devices that you're using to hold the wood parts together while the glue dries. In your pictures they're the black things that look like large clothes pins, and the one that you tighten with the red colored handles and silver bars.

EJWash

[Davide72]

The devices that you're using to hold the wood parts together while the glue dries. In your pictures they're the black things that look like large clothes pins, and the one that you tighten with the red colored handles and silver bars.

EJWash

For laundry we use this things "see pic" in wood and they are perfect for glue and hold long stick or thin pieces or foil of balsa, they dont hold with to much force and dont mark the balsa..
I am keep working on my piper, i am curving the top fusolage stick..sorry i have big problem for translate in techinical english,anyway for curve the stick u use a mix of wather and ammonia ,after i use the iron hot for impress the curve.
Have great day
David

[EJWash1]

For laundry we use this things
Yes. Model builders have used these, here we call them "clothes pins" for a long time.

I have included a picture of the clamps that I use for model building. You will notice that they are the same as yours. The ones that look like the wooden laundry kind are called "spring clamps". The kind that you have to turn the handle to move the screw to give pressure is a "bar clamp". The small red one that your see in the shape of the letter 'C' is a c-clamp. You see, we keep things simple here. :D

Your fuselage is coming along nicely. It is nice and straight.

EJWash

[Davide72]

Yes. Model builders have used these, here we call them "clothes pins" for a long time.

I have included a picture of the clamps that I use for model building. You will notice that they are the same as yours. The ones that look like the wooden laundry kind are called "spring clamps". The kind that you have to turn the handle to move the screw to give pressure is a "bar clamp". The small red one that your see in the shape of the letter 'C' is a c-clamp. You see, we keep things simple here. :D

Your fuselage is coming along nicely. It is nice and straight.

EJWash
Well Ej we use same stuff..anyway we live in different country but not different planet!! :p
thx so much for you words about the fusolage it's really good to listen that from a expert builder like you!
Today i got the OS FT 160 gemini! I bought new from ebay at really nice prices!! almost 1/3 of cost here :D :D :D
HAVE GREAT WEEK END GUYS
David

[Davide72]

Hi guys, here this week-end perfect weather..rain rain rain!! So i will stay closed in my garage working on my Piper!! :D :D :D

[TomCrump]

Congratulations on the purchase of your 1.60 twin. I'm sure that you will like it.

[Davide72]

Congratulations on the purchase of your 1.60 twin. I'm sure that you will like it.
thx buddy!
your Spacewalker it's just FANTASTICCC!!! And the stuke make me dream!!
You really great scale builder!!
David

[Davide72]

Hello guys,
here you can see how i decided to renfoirce the firewall and all the "nose" structure...maybe i put to much remnforcement but..in this case i will not worry to push on gas;)!!

[Davide72]

Hello guys,
here i will post some photos of the tail and first wing, i have to admit i am sweating for sand allthis wood but..in the end i think i made a good job on this wing:D

here u can see a little video of the engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1-W87vLvMM

[LONGBIKE]

Looking great dave!
Very nice size.

[Davide72]

Thx so much!!
i got the Remote R/C on board TWIN glow driver for my OS 160 gemini..i will post some photos as i'll install it on the plane.
I need too some ideas about how to install the remote fuel valve..

[Davide72]

I decided to keep to work on wing and all the structure, i will figureout teh engine and elettric stuff later..

[Captainhook1]

You picked the perfect engine for this model. I had one of these years ago and it flew very well with the Gemini. Sure would love to have another one of these kits to build. Keep up the good work.

Carey

[Davide72]

Hello guy ,
kep working bit slow because i am fixed my p-40 top flite fusolage crashed:censored:

[Davide72]

You picked the perfect engine for this model. I had one of these years ago and it flew very well with the Gemini. Sure would love to have another one of these kits to build. Keep up the good work.

Carey
thx so much Captain!!Yes it'a great kit but..it's a great havy work to!!!:eek:

[Davide72]

Keep working bit slow ..one reason is this little cat..he comes one day in my garage , he had a very bad wound probabilly for a bite dog..anyway i decided to adoipt him:D! Any suggestion for the name??

[mike3976]

Any suggestion for the name??

Piper of course!

[Cloud Cruiser]

How about CUBZILLA

[Davide72]

Happy new year GUYSSSSSSS
..Piper is the one i choice ..Cubzilla sound bit strange in my language:D
Well i post here some photos of my Piper.."the plane" covered with Solartex.
I can say it's very strong material, and it's really really easy to use!!
David

[EJWash1]

David,

The covering looks really nice.

I see Piper, the cat, has found a nice warm place there in your shop.

EJWash

[Davide72]

David,

The covering looks really nice.

I see Piper, the cat, has found a nice warm place there in your shop.

EJWash
thx EJ! feel so good read good word for thgis work, it's the first time i build a huge kit like this and..it's not easy work!
David

[Captainhook1]

There never easy, David. But you'll be glad you did it after it's finished. There's nothing more gratifying then completing a model after all the hard labor. Keep up the good work!

[Davide72]

There never easy, David. But you'll be glad you did it after it's finished. There's nothing more gratifying then completing a model after all the hard labor. Keep up the good work!

Yes Captainhook i agree!!!
Have great weekend

[bgfireman]

Looking good David! What will the finish paint job be? I wish now I had bought the 1/4 instead of the 1/5. Maybe later I can move up. Continue the good work.
Alan

[Davide72]

Looking good David! What will the finish paint job be? I wish now I had bought the 1/4 instead of the 1/5. Maybe later I can move up. Continue the good work.
Alan
Hi Alan,
this is the paint i dream to do:rolleyes:
But before to paint i have still lots of work to do..i have to figureout how to install all the windows , still have to cut the cowl and many many little detail to finish...really long work this kit! Anyway i think after this kit i get skills in contruction;)
If anyone can post photos of windows or cowl detail pls will help me..
David

[Captainhook1]

Awesome choice, David. I do not have any close up photos of mine. It has been several years since I owned it and I wasn't the original builder. If memory serves me correctly, you will need to split the cowl down the center to fit it over the 160 twin. No big deal though.

Carey

[pda4you]

This sure brings back a whole lot of memories. I built one 27 years ago! It was a favorite and WONDERFUL flying airplane. Was crushed when it got crushed by the movers in one of our many moves.

Mike

[Davide72]

well guys, if i could be there, i would like you do the first flight with the test.I am scared after the p-40 crash:(:(

[pda4you]

It is a gentle giant. You wont have any issues.... :)

[Davide72]

It is a gentle giant. You wont have any issues.... :)

Thx so much Sir.
David

[Davide72]

Well time to get painted coming..:D:D

David

[xj35s]

Plenty of photo close ups here. http://www.clippedwingcub.com/

This is a good scale build site.. http://www.thecubden.org/cubmenu/cubmain.html

Just for kicks... http://www.pipermuseum.com/

You've done a great job. Love that engine.

[Davide72]

Plenty of photo close ups here. http://www.clippedwingcub.com/

This is a good scale build site.. http://www.thecubden.org/cubmenu/cubmain.html

Just for kicks... http://www.pipermuseum.com/

You've done a great job. Love that engine.

Thx so much sir! I founded what i was looking for:D
David

[Davide72]

Tonight i will paint with white...:D

[aerofly0610]

Looks good Dave! Do you have a small house? I spent a day in Crete, Greece on a military layover. All the houses were so tiny!!!! I did have a stop in Naples but I couldnt leave the airport. I did see houses next to the terminal and they were all tiny as well. Maybe Im just a spoiled American eh?? Your english is better than a lot of Americans, so don't apologize for your translation/grammar mistakes.

[Davide72]

Thx sir! Next week i think i will finish to paint my piper!
Well yes i know in Us you have big house.."bigger is better" i worked in NC so i know your huge house with back yard and huge garage..hmmm my dream house!
Here in italy in town we have appartments or condos only in brick not in wood. You can finde house like your only as country house but very very expensive. so a medium appartment (100 meters/square) cost almost double than a medium american house, well depend place and view but normally they cost more than in usa.:(:(

[Davide72]

dressed for the paint!:D

[Captainhook1]

I'm getting excited!:D

[Davide72]

:DThx so much buddy!But Captain mine it's not a really scale..i didnt build any details...
P.S.your engine it's amazing!!!

[Captainhook1]

Thanks, David. Barry is the amazement behind the engine. I just need to make it look good. I plan to start building that radial this weekend. ;)

[sailor5017]

Nice posts on your build.I have built five cubs and worked an a BUSA cub for a friend. I like the sig clipped wing cub best for scale look. I think the BUSA cub is to wide to be scale. Maybe they took their measurements from a super cub. Anyway engines I have used are enya 120R os 120 and for the last 3 cubs the os Gemini . I have only crashed one cub the rest I have sold.The OS twin is the best engine for this plane. My latest cub has been modified from the sig kit , It features plug in wings, allowing for better scale appearance especially the fuse top, opening doors, All stits covering and paint with rib stitching etc. Robart scale working landing gear .On board glow , wheel pants aka Krier cubs, semi scale interior. i epoxy glass the areas of the cub fuse where the full scale had sheet metal.Makes it easier to obtain a scale looking windshield install. the dubden.com is a great reference site fort his plane.Ill post some pics latter today or tomorrow to show u some of the details.Of course going with scale detailing , adds a little more weight but the plane fly's rock steady and not so"floaty " as a lighter cub especially one with the full wing.they are a fun airplane One cub i had lasted for 18 years,flying from wheels and floats. crashed due to radio problem..

[Davide72]

Nice posts on your build.I have built five cubs and worked an a BUSA cub for a friend. I like the sig clipped wing cub best for scale look. I think the BUSA cub is to wide to be scale. Maybe they took their measurements from a super cub. Anyway engines I have used are enya 120R os 120 and for the last 3 cubs the os Gemini . I have only crashed one cub the rest I have sold.The OS twin is the best engine for this plane. My latest cub has been modified from the sig kit , It features plug in wings, allowing for better scale appearance especially the fuse top, opening doors, All stits covering and paint with rib stitching etc. Robart scale working landing gear .On board glow , wheel pants aka Krier cubs, semi scale interior. i epoxy glass the areas of the cub fuse where the full scale had sheet metal.Makes it easier to obtain a scale looking windshield install. the dubden.com is a great reference site fort his plane.Ill post some pics latter today or tomorrow to show u some of the details.Of course going with scale detailing , adds a little more weight but the plane fly's rock steady and not so"floaty " as a lighter cub especially one with the full wing.they are a fun airplane One cub i had lasted for 18 years,flying from wheels and floats. crashed due to radio problem..

waiting for your pics:D:D

[sailor5017]

i have some pics , take some more tomorrow with more detail

[sailor5017]

Here ya go ready for test fly just have to attach struts.. windshield detail is made from brass strips on sides( i used hard wood 5/16 side pieces to hold screws thru brass strips) on and epoxy resin with micro balloons on bottom to simulate metal molding strip on real cub

[sailor5017]

Also charging jacks for radio battery and on board glow as well as on offs witch are on floor between seats. I use a 5 cell pack and voltage regulator from Chibana electronics for on board receiver battery

[bgfireman]

Sailor,
That is sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alan

[Davide72]

Here ya go ready for test fly just have to attach struts.. windshield detail is made from brass strips on sides( i used hard wood 5/16 side pieces to hold screws thru brass strips) on and epoxy resin with micro balloons on bottom to simulate metal molding strip on real cub

GODDDDDD!! it's just beautiful!! U did a great job sailor!!!I too install a remote glow, and i too think to put the light in the cockpit:D. To be honest this build was bit too long and i choice to keep build and not work too much on detail, but, i will work on that later:rolleyes:
Thx so much for your photo it help me...you could post more pis about the cowl?
David

[sailor5017]

not much more to say about the cowl two pic sshowit fairly clear. it's split crosswise centered on the crankshaft of the engine, A couple of clips glassed in the front inside of the cowl with small blind nuts to attach the front end together i think the real cub cowl is done fairly similar. Detailing should be considered and done while you are doing the build, it,s far easier to do a good job of detailing when you can get at things. Servos for rudder and elevator are accessed thru hatches under the plane behind cabin area. I used a fiberglass push rod for elevator and fabricated a fitting so it is all inside the fuse, rudder uses pull pull cable to a tiller bar then to servo.Ill send more pics if you want tell me what youd like to see

[xj35s]

How do you do that covering job? Do you cover with white, then add red on top of that? I'm new but want to do this to my Goldberg anniversary J3.

[sailor5017]

the covering is stits lite from F&M enterprises in Texas, it's the material the full size ultralight aircraft,probably about the same ssig coverall, I also use the full stits method of painting, if you go to the F&M web site they explain the process of painting , The covering is a washed out white and requires sealing priming and then painting. It takes a bit more work than prepainted covering but allows for detailing such as rib stitching etc

[Davide72]

How do you do that covering job? Do you cover with white, then add red on top of that? I'm new but want to do this to my Goldberg anniversary J3.
I covered with Solartex..i can tell it's best and strong thermoretract material i ever used..it have a text appareil, very strong,you can paint wirh any kind of paint and already fuel prof!

[xj35s]

I'm curious now how the poly lite for models compares to the 1.7 oz ultralight non certified fabiric. Interesting. I have this material for repair to my real airplane. I have poly brush and poly tack. I'll have to get some lite and compare.

cool Thank you for the info. My plane...
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/XJ35S/EarlandCarla.jpg

[Davide72]

I'm curious now how the poly lite for models compares to the 1.7 oz ultralight non certified fabiric. Interesting. I have this material for repair to my real airplane. I have poly brush and poly tack. I'll have to get some lite and compare.

cool Thank you for the info. My plane...
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/XJ35S/EarlandCarla.jpg

Wowwww great!!!!

[Davide72]

Well the paint it's done! I didnt had time for remove all the tape but..i saw in many place the paint went down under the tape:censored::censored::censored:!
I think i can resolve covering with a tight dark tape as you did sailor:o..well i think i will post some pics later in my night!
David

[SunDevilPilot]

Well the paint it's done! I didnt had time for remove all the tape but..i saw in many place the paint went down under the tape:censored::censored::censored:!
I think i can resolve covering with a tight dark tape as you did sailor:o..well i think i will post some pics later in my night!
David

Little trick for tape lines.....

Paint the base color, mask the scheme off, and paint the base color around the seams of the tape to seal the edge. Any bleed through will be the same as the base. Once this dries spray your next color and pull the tape. You will get a razor sharp tape line this way.

When you cutting out the windows?

Looking great! I wish mine was to the point yours is.

SunDevilPilot

[Davide72]

Little trick for tape lines.....

Paint the base color, mask the scheme off, and paint the base color around the seams of the tape to seal the edge. Any bleed through will be the same as the base. Once this dries spray your next color and pull the tape. You will get a razor sharp tape line this way.

When you cutting out the windows?

Looking great! I wish mine was to the point yours is.

SunDevilPilot
Sorry SunDevilPilot i cant understand everything..damnn my poor english! you will be so gentle to explain with easy terms?:o
Here guys you will see the model with the wing...on a side it missed a lietter "m"..i will paint it again:censored:! anyway i think it look good..
N ext steps will be cut and fix the windows, cut the cowl..i am soo scared:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:!!And fix some instrument on the cokpit...
David

[EJWash1]

Impressive Paint work!

EJWash

[Davide72]

Impressive Paint work!

EJWash

Camon Ej in pics all look great! anyway thx so much!!:D:D:D

[Captainhook1]

Good job, David!

[sailor5017]

Thats a difficult job to do... ...

[Davide72]

Thats a difficult job to do... ...

What u mean?

[aerofly0610]

nice looking bird! I hope she gives you many hours of flight and joy.

[sailor5017]

What u mean?

Doing checker board paint job requires a lot of patients,your looks great.
I was going to try it but kept it simple.(less Masking etc)

[greg harrison]

i just started a balsa usa 1/4 scale j-3 and im going to clip the wings. i was going to cover it blue and white but after seeing yours it may wnd up red and white. its a very nice job davide72

[Davide72]

i just started a balsa usa 1/4 scale j-3 and im going to clip the wings. i was going to cover it blue and white but after seeing yours it may wnd up red and white. its a very nice job davide72
Thx so much Greg!! dont forget to post your pics..i love to look naked wood structure:p!
I make paint my piper in a dark red "metal"..like cherry,in beginner i tought to paint with a dark blue "metal"..but i think red it's more visible!
David

[aerofly0610]

can you get videos of it flying???

[Davide72]

can you get videos of it flying???
yes i will:D

[sailor5017]

Davide did you get windows and windshield installed

[Davide72]

Davide did you get windows and windshield installed
No yet, i just cut the space where i'll install the windows...i have no time in this period..getting married soon!!:D
David

[Jeff Glasser]

Bella build David,
sorry to see you crashed your P.40 earlier in this thread, that must be the old Topflite Warhawk? Mine still hangs from the workshop roof!
What caused yours to crash?

Love the paint scheme on the Cub.

Jeff

[old_dan]

Really nice looking build David!

I'm subscribed.

è un piacere conoscerti!

That is the extent of my italian!!

Dan

[Davide72]

Bella build David,
sorry to see you crashed your P.40 earlier in this thread, that must be the old Topflite Warhawk? Mine still hangs from the workshop roof!
What caused yours to crash?

Love the paint scheme on the Cub.

Jeff
Thx so much Jeff, yes it's the old topflite kit..is the one i dreamed up when i was 14:rolleyes:..The engine turnedoff when the model was far so...:(:censored:
David

[Davide72]

Really nice looking build David!

I'm subscribed.

è un piacere conoscerti!

That is the extent of my italian!!

Dan

It's all my pleasure Dan!thx so much !
David

[Jeff Glasser]

Thx so much Jeff, yes it's the old topflite kit..is the one i dreamed up when i was 14:rolleyes:..The engine turnedoff when the model was far so...:(:censored:
David

Sad, that's why most of my models get built but not flown. Stupid, but I prefer to build!!

Your Cub looks superb, and I can't wait to see it airborne.

Jeff

[Davide72]

Sad, that's why most of my models get built but not flown. Stupid, but I prefer to build!!

Your Cub looks superb, and I can't wait to see it airborne.

Jeff
really you just build and no flight? wow so you should be full of fantastic airplane:D...i saw your p-40 and it's very nice!

[Jeff Glasser]

I do fly sometimes, when I need space in the workshop!!:D

Jeff

[Davide72]

I do fly sometimes, when I need space in the workshop!!:D

Jeff
hahahah!! to be honest now i am waiting some time before to finish the Cub..i am a bit scared after the p-40 crash so:(...
Please post here more photos of your amazing airplane!!:D
David

[Jeff Glasser]

Thanks for the kind comment on the P.40.
I worked repairing and refinishing car bodys and 'custom painted' motorcycles for many years before having to retire, so painting models is not difficult, and I love to play around with the airbrush.
I love the 'sunburst' type paint scheme. I painted a friends Stampe a few years ago, heres a picture.

I'll drag the P.40 down from the roof and take some more photos' for you, but please, this is your thread for the Cub!

Jeff

[Davide72]

Thanks for the kind comment on the P.40.
I worked repairing and refinishing car bodys and 'custom painted' motorcycles for many years before having to retire, so painting models is not difficult, and I love to play around with the airbrush.
I love the 'sunburst' type paint scheme. I painted a friends Stampe a few years ago, heres a picture.

I'll drag the P.40 down from the roof and take some more photos' for you, but please, this is your thread for the Cub!

Jeff

Hmmm maybe you can help me with a old mv augusta waiting to be fixed in my garage since 5 years:D It's a 125 4 stroke t.r. '50-'55:D
My uncle give to me, he made a old race the Milano-Taranto with that bike.
David

[b7gwap]

Cool bike! Nice P-40! (RIP :( ) But get that Cub finished, we'd really like to see your fine work, Davide!