Parkzone ME109 with Sonic Module and EZ-XPORT

[johnpcunningham]

I added the sonic module to the ME109 and did some fighting against the Parkzone Corsairs and the T-28D. Typical installation with with the EZ-XPORT adapter tied to the GEAR on the AR7000 and a little hot glue to hold the sonic module to the bottom of the plane. I used the X-PORT extension cable (ParkZone PKZ1509 $1.99 listed below) and ran the cable through the bottom of the wing

http://secure.hobbyzone.com/catalog/HZ/parkzone_mustang/parkzone_mustang_parts/PKZ1509.html

The ME109 can easily hold its own aginst the other planes! One note, landing is much much easier if you set up the ailerons in spolieron (both ailerons go up) mode when you land, as compared to having them down in flaperon mode. I did not install the flaps option. I ran the JR X9303 radio and tried both flaperon and spolieron modes and the spoileron mode was suerior. The plane flaots nicely. You will need a slight amount of down elevator when you land. Doing this will help prevent the bouncing that we saw when landing and you can come in much slower. Enjoy.

JC

[ChaseR83]

Great work there!

I have been eyeballing those sonic combat modules for a while now... and I've been trying to get some friends interested in R/C for a little warbird combat :D

How well are the modules working with warbirds? I haven't had the chance to play with one of those modules yet. How far is the range? Do you have to attack from below and behind, or can the module detect pulses from other directions?

[johnpcunningham]

They work quite well. The best way to describe it is that the front is the transmitter and the rear is the receiver. The output and input work in a "cone" pattern so the more you are directly behind the other plane, the better change you have of a kill. Side shots do work when you are in tight. The only ones that do not really seem to work is when both planes are head to head.

Other than that, the sound volume is fine. The speaker is close to that of a fire alarm so you can hear it from quite a distance.

JC

[ChaseR83]

Have you (or anybody you know),

Intentionally or unintentionally ;) opened up one of combat modules? I'd be interested to see how much stuff is really inside...

I'm guessing one printed circuit board and a speaker and microphone... the only reason I ask is that I am thinking about integrating the guts of a module into a scratch build... rather than just hang it under the plane.

Its a shame it doesn't sense head on hits... I could see some enterprising individual using two modules in say, a BF 110, one for the nose guns and one for the rear gunner protecting the plane tail.

[turbonut]

the speaker is the big round part in the middle..the receiver is front and rear!....I just took one apart to confirm it!
We were able to get hits from the front or rear..so head on kills do work!
:)
They work quite well. The best way to describe it is that the front is the transmitter and the rear is the receiver. The output and input work in a "cone" pattern so the more you are directly behind the other plane, the better change you have of a kill. Side shots do work when you are in tight. The only ones that do not really seem to work is when both planes are head to head.

Other than that, the sound volume is fine. The speaker is close to that of a fire alarm so you can hear it from quite a distance.

JC

[ChaseR83]

the speaker is the big round part in the middle..the receiver is front and rear!....I just took one apart to confirm it!
We were able to get hits from the front or rear..so head on kills do work!
:)

Interesting,

Sounds like by taking the module apart... and moving some of the components around on a plane... it is possible to increase its effectiveness.

Head on shots would be awesome :)

[johnpcunningham]

Head on shots will work but you have to be pretty close - at least from my experiences.

Inside the Sonic Moudle are 4 major components:
1) Microcontroller
2) Speaker - for shooting and being killed audible tones
3) Transmitting transducer (front)
4) Receiving transducer (rear)

The transducers operate in the ultrasonic band at ~40KHz. The one in front transmists the sound just like normal speaker except ultrasonic. The receiver in the back picks up the signal. The MCU ignores the receiver when it is firing so it does not fool itself into being triggered.

That's about it.

JC

[Helichainsaw]

John I just wanna say you are the man !!!! :D I have been waiting for someone to make something like the ez-xport for a long time. I have one of the powerzone chips and I guess it works like your ez-esc ?
http://radiocontrol.wikia.com/wiki/PowerZone.
I will be buying some of your ez-xports and I hope some day you make it rich off these because you truly deserve it;)
Thanks Jason

[Helichainsaw]

John if me and some friends buy the newer aerobirds 3 we dont need the ez-esc to go brushless correct ? The ez-esc is for like the older aerobird challenger, xtreme and stryker correct ? Do they even make/sell the stryker with the bushed motor anymore all I see is the brushless version. The reason I ask is one friend was gonna get the brushed stryker just so he could play combat but I didnt see it on there website.
So if he buys the stryker F-27C PNP then get an ez-xport hes good to go ?

Sorry for all the questions. Thxs
Oh what would be the best high performance brushless motor to put in the aerobird 3 ? I gotta be able to keep up with that stryker. I have a himaxx 2815 3000kv lying around but if something is better " maybe eflite six series 2700kv" or himaxx 2825 2700kv I want it . LOL I believe the 2815 will be a direct fit but I'm not sure.

[flapdown]

I added the sonic module to the ME109 and did some fighting against the Parkzone Corsairs and the T-28D. Typical installation with with the EZ-XPORT adapter tied to the GEAR on the AR7000 and a little hot glue to hold the sonic module to the bottom of the plane. I used the X-PORT extension cable (ParkZone PKZ1509 $1.99 listed below) and ran the cable through the bottom of the wing

JC



I have the Spektrum AR 6100 RX‎.
Can I just do the installation with with the EZ-XPORT adapter
tied to the GEAR on the AR 6100 RX?
... would that work fine?

Thanks

[GiusedtoBe]

Have you done any belly landing with the ME-109? I like how you mounted the SCM as I really did not want to mar the upper parts of this plane it being so new.

Thanks
Alan

[johnpcunningham]

Helichainsaw

I ran the E-flight SIX series 2700 in the AB3 and it dod work, but it was a little too hot in my opinion. It does put a strain on the ESC. I would go with the 2000kv motor instead and this would serve you well. And yes, the ESC will support an external brushless ESC if you plug it into the first 3-wore servo connection.

Here is a link to the EZ-XPORT on the Stryker:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8072591/anchors_8072591/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#8072591

As for belly landing, The Sonic module can easily take it - we did this in the Extreme and the AB3 all of the time adn on the Corsair. We were landing in a field of hard grass.

It was mentioned that someon had a sonic module with limited range. I have seen this here and there and it generally is a "bum" sonic module - even out of the box. Swap it out with another one and you should be fine and the range should be more like 10-15 meters.