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aussief3b
Jun 21, 2009, 12:14 AM
Set out this morning to the Buzzards Flying Field with a goal in mind to get my Level 4 one hour thermal duration flight done. Forecast for extremely hot conditions (96 degrees,) but only small chance of storms in the afternoon. Looked like the perfect day for the job. After the club meeting ended my son Jamie launched to get his Level 2 - 15 minute duration out of the way. Some 30 minutes later I got him to come down so I could attempt my much longer task. (More on Jamie later.)
With my witnesses Raed Alezzawi and Chris manley lined up to time the flight I launched the Sharon about 11:50. 6 minutes later I was setting up my landing approach. :( Where did all the lift go? Clearly not where I just flew! :rolleyes: I launched again immediately and once again 5 minutes later I finally gave up on some small bubbles of lift and landed for another try. :mad: My son Jamie said "Why don't you try downwind Dad?" (He actually said that the previous flight and I didn't go there.) I took his advice and scouted downwind straight off the launch and hit lift immediately. :D As I climbed out I walked back to the shade tents and took a seat out of the sun and that is where I stayed for the next 60 minutes. One of the tough things with hot days is the combination of sweat and sunscreen running into your eyes. 9 minutes into the flight Jamie had to use a towel on my right eye as it stung and watered. Bit of a panic for a while but a couple of hits with the towel had her fixed and I could see with both eyes again. Lift was abundant once the Sharon was up there. And up there she was with most of this flight spent flying around under each passing cloud at about 1500+ feet. As people were leaving they had to pack up my tent so they lifted it off me and replaced it with another. The Sharon is not really the best plane to be flying at such heights because I find it very hard to judge it's attitude and often times it can be flying much faster than it needs to be. I think these task attempts would be much easier with a forgiving flier like my SuperAva but I love flying the Sharon so she was the ship I chose for the task. 60 minutes is a long time but when lift is abundant there is little stress - just a need for constant vigilance for 60 minutes.
As I reached 55 minutes we all went out in the field for the landing and Jamie took a few photos as I brought her home with the clock a little over 61 minutes since launch. I must thank Raed and Chris Hanley for their help and being witnesses. It is truly exciting to have specific goals to reach with the LSF program and it makes every flying day one to plan for and look forward to. I need one more 1 hour TD (or a 4 hour slope) to complete Level 4 and I will begin the final journey. Maybe tomorrow would be a good day for another 1 hour. :D
As I have been racing through these LSF tasks my son Jamie has been watching, timing contests for me, watching others fly and learning to fly himself. He 1st learned to fly in March with a little electric, flew a sailplane off a winch launch with a "donated" Tellipsoar for the 1st time on May 2nd. Flew his 1st full house ship (an old beater ICON) on May 16th and is working on Level 2 of the LSF a month later.
Last week he was just 3 points behind me in 6th place in an Unlimited contest with 15 starters. :eek: Today he completed his LSF 2 TD requirements (except his slope) and now just needs 4 contests to move on to Level 3. He needed 5 landings within 1.5m today and a 15 minute TD flight. He accomplished all of them. I am so proud of his efforts. He is doing what is necessary to become a pilot - and fast! 2 weeks ago I taught him to drive the winch on his own, so he no longer needs me to help him launch. He immediately practiced landings with 23 launches and timed precision spot landings. :eek: Today with witnesses available (Kosta and Don Grisham - Thankyou) Jamie benefited from that practice and got his 5 landings from 10 attempts. :D Not bad for someone who had never even flown any plane before March. I hope his efforts inspire other glider guiders in Florida and all over to join the fun and use the LSF program to also become more accomplished pilots.
Gordon

AndyTheLegend
Jun 21, 2009, 01:30 AM
Gordon, I envy you. Congratulations. I'm still trying to get my Topaz dialed in. Jamie is making amazing progress too. If he ever grows out of the Icon I'd be interested. Thanks for sharing all the stories and inspiration.

Andy

aussief3b
Jun 21, 2009, 01:54 AM
Hi Andy,
You will be the first to know about it if he wants to move up??? :) (HE will need to pay for his next plane. :D )
Andy you just need to fly fly fly the Topaz. Make sure the pushrods, linkages and servo mounts are strong. Balance the model and go fly. Takes Jamie and I 2 or 3 hand tosses to "dial in" his Icon even after major changes like replacing the battery etc. Don't get too hung up on making it "just right". What is important to progress in this piloting - is air time and practice at flying and landing.
Last week at the IRKS contest I hastily added 2 pieces of lead about 3 inches long each to the ICON to compensate for a much lighter battery we used. One piece came loose and slipped back into the fuse under the wing. Every time Jamie nosed up it would suddenly stall. Everytime he dropped the nose it would suddenly dive. (The 1.7oz piece of lead was sliding from tail to nose and back.) He could hardly handle the plane but he still flew it to a 6 minut max and landed it near the spot for a greaty score under those conditions. (I didn't know what the problem was so I told him to stop whining about the trim and just fly the plane for 6 mins and get his landing. :D - So he did. Only after landing did we discover the moving weight! :eek: My point is that you can fly the plane and still do well even when it isn't even close to perfect. Might make a better pilot out of you even. :D As Mr Nike says. "Just Do It.
Gordon

Ed Franz
Jun 21, 2009, 06:41 AM
Way to go Gordon!

Ed

ACooper
Jun 21, 2009, 12:50 PM
Gordon...your posts are fantastic! Thanks and congratulations.

dion9146
Jun 21, 2009, 02:16 PM
Congrats Gordon! I hope you and Jamie are doing well. Sure looks like you are!

Dion

raed5
Jun 21, 2009, 07:38 PM
Good job Gordon, It was my pleasure to be apart of your accomplishment.
Raed Elazzawi

Libelle201B
Jun 21, 2009, 07:46 PM
It is a great feeling when you accomplish a soaring goal. The LSF is a great program, even if there are some that feel it should be modified in some respects. I don't even remember what LSF level I achieved back when I was focused on it in the late 80's early 90's. At some point I think I became fixated on local and state competition and forgot about the LSF goals in general, a mistake in hind sight. Keep with it! :)

aeajr
Jun 23, 2009, 05:34 AM
Congratulations!

aussief3b
Jun 23, 2009, 09:42 PM
Hey guys - thanks for all the nice comments. Something new happened to me on Saturday. I cam home with a case of the Prickly Heat rash. :eek: Never had this before but it seems being out in the heat for so long sitting in the one place may have contributed to it. Nasty prickly itchy rash like insect bites in little lumps all over my back. Has anybody else experienced such a thing flying for long periods?
I am planning to go get another 1 hour this Saturday to complete Level 4 but I don't want to make my itchy back any worse. :eek:
Gordon

dion9146
Jun 23, 2009, 09:58 PM
Gordon,

Yes, I have experienced what you are talking about. The first time when I was staying at my Grandparents house in Oveido while on Spring break in High School. I ended up in the hospital with orders to stay out of the Sun. That was 24 years ago.

Ever since then , if I even get a little bit of a burn on my shoulders or back, the same heat rash comes back. It sucks - feels like a 100 flies biting at once. Happened to me again this past weekend sitting at the neighbors pool all day.

You'll probably be OK as long as you have lots of lotion on and are covered up.

Good luck.

Dion

R. Carver
Jun 24, 2009, 12:16 AM
Here ya go Gordon- from one pasty white guy to another :) http://www.bananaboat.com/products/14665.aspx?cat=2&curBrowseBy=Usage

smitty14
Jun 24, 2009, 03:50 PM
Gordon,
Congrats on your flight. Even more so on the shared activity with your son. Some of the best times with my son were out slope soaring. He is going to be a sophomore majoring in AE at WSU this Fall. It is still great to get him out to the hill.

aussief3b
Jun 24, 2009, 06:36 PM
Here ya go Gordon- from one pasty white guy to another :) http://www.bananaboat.com/products/14665.aspx?cat=2&curBrowseBy=Usage
Hey Rusty,
I don't usually wear sunscreen under my Tshirt but maybe I gotta. The rash has nearly healed up so I hope it's good for Saturday. I made an attempt on Tuesday evening. Launched at 7:05 Landed at 7:39. Would have been a good effort to get an hour launching that late but it wasn't to be. (And I left good lift at 7:29 because it was so high I was worried about seeing it. :eek: We are learning!)

Congrats on your flight. Even more so on the shared activity with your son. Some of the best times with my son were out slope soaring. He is going to be a sophomore majoring in AE at WSU this Fall. It is still great to get him out to the hill.
Thanks Smitty. There is no doubt that this is the best thing I have ever done with Jamie. We had grown apart and he really appreciates the fact we are doing this together. Though we argue a lot we soon get over it and move right on with the next flight. :D (The problem is if anything goes wrong it is always my fault. :eek: ) I'm his Dad so I can cop it. :D

rdeis
Jun 25, 2009, 02:20 AM
There is no doubt that this is the best thing I have ever done with Jamie. We had grown apart and he really appreciates the fact we are doing this together.

It was certainly the best thing I ever did with *my* dad! I'd always been around soaring and interested in it, but middle teenagerdom is where I started to get serious. At that age soaring was the one thing we could always agree on and the only area where I'd always recognize his wisdom.

I look forward to my sons catching the bug and following suit. Patience required. :)