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quicky
Jun 09, 2009, 04:31 PM
I am building a UAV and noticed one built by INL, and their plane had ailerons, elevators, rudders, and flaps that had a stretchable covering over the hinged section of the control surface. This provided a seamless moving part while allowing it to move as well. Does anyone know where to find more information on this construction technique?
airmcn_3
Jun 09, 2009, 04:54 PM
I am building a UAV and noticed one built by INL, and their plane had ailerons, elevators, rudders, and flaps that had a stretchable covering over the hinged section of the control surface. This provided a seamless moving part while allowing it to move as well. Does anyone know where to find more information on this construction technique?
Are you talking a composite aircraft or a built up one with monofilm covering? The two techniques are very different......
quicky
Jun 09, 2009, 05:00 PM
It was a composite molded aircraft. Im not sure if the film was added after the molding process, or added during the molding process, but it was a fiberglass molded plane for sure.
airmcn_3
Jun 09, 2009, 05:06 PM
It was a composite molded aircraft. Im not sure if the film was added later or added in the molding process, but it was a fiberglass molded plane for sure.
OK,
It’s done in the molding/layup process; the hinge is made of Kevlar and is accurately scored once popped out of the mold. It’s not a very hard process if you have any composite molding experience and there are many videos out there on how to do it. Take a look at YouTube and look for Kevlar hinge....
I just check and did not find it in there, take a look in the composites part of the forum and ask those guys, they will be very helpful if your nice ;)
Meanwhile take a look at this..... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/goddo/T%20W%20XP%20Hinging%20the%20Surfaces.htm#create%2 0a%20hinge
Chris
quicky
Jun 09, 2009, 05:12 PM
Thanks. It seems that a lot of construction techniques are skipped over in a lot of sites out there. They focus on hardware/software stuff more, but thanks.
airmcn_3
Jun 09, 2009, 05:16 PM
Thanks. It seems that a lot of construction techniques are skipped over in a lot of sites out there. They focus on hardware/software stuff more, but thanks.
Did you find what you need? If not I will do some digging, I would bet I have it on video somewhere on my computer.
quicky
Jun 09, 2009, 05:18 PM
The link did help a lot. Maybe some pictures or video would be good too.
airmcn_3
Jun 09, 2009, 05:31 PM
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246671&page=29
http://members.cox.net/dwfee/VacBagWing.htm
This will help.
Tuner
Jun 09, 2009, 07:20 PM
OK if you ever have seen a Jaro Muller glider he has a unique hinge design
The top of the hinge is just like a standard tape hinge only it uses the kevlar composite material that is just not impregnated with epoxy.
For the bottom where the gap is he has a strip of plastice that is curved and when the surface points down it recesses into the the wing and when the surface points up the plastic covers the gap.
I included a link below but it is incorrect showing the plastic piece I am talking about it is essentially reversed where the tape would be on top and the... 6 one way half dozen the other.
http://www.rc-soar.com/tech/ellipse.htm
CAFplanekid
Jun 11, 2009, 01:27 PM
I did some wind tunnel testing of an aileron design I came up with, which uses a parabolic curve control surface deflection geometry as opposed to a single hinge. Basically it equates to sort of localized wing warping. For a given amount of deflection, I got some pretty interesting results. A huge increase in roll effectiveness for a small increase in drag, with an increase in lift. So a smaller amount of control deflection is required for a given amount of roll effectiveness, which will provide for a reduction in drag. Mpt exactly what you are thinking of, but something interesting to look in to.
EddieWeeks
Jun 16, 2009, 12:56 PM
2 oz fiberglass can be used as a hinge no problem. You don't need kevlar or anything
hard to work with. The DC-10 on the left used these for years..
Eddie
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