New B-24? WOW Planes 80"span or Dare 79"span, Interested?

[chilipecker]

Fahim at WOW Planes is considering offering a new, larger version B-24 with an IMAA legal 80" span. Please check out his current line-up, and take a close look at his current 62" span B-24. WOW Planes offers a complete foam airframe with all the scale plastic details, so build time is quick, which leaves more time for details! Now, imagine this in an 80" version. That makes me say WOW!

Terry at Dare Hobbies has a design ready to go based on Keith Sparks fantastic plastic detail package. This would be a 79" span, stick and tissue version much like their famous B-17.

To me, bombers should be BIG, SLOW, and LUMBERING, floaters. I don't want something small, heavy and hot. If you've ever flow, or seen a 79" span Dare B-17 lumbering in flight, you know what I mean. I looks and flies like a bomber should. Also, check out the awesome build forum at....

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=981906

If you would like to see a B-24 of this size in a complete kit available please contact either or both of these kit companies and let them know your interested!!!

If you're interested...
Fahim says only 10 orders and he will make kits available.
Terry at Dare just needs to know there is enough interest.

[staggerwing]

I'd like to know construction including gear, cowls, canopies ,turrent covers,nose pc, etc.. I purchased a Nitro Planes B17 & sold it NIB as it was a dissapointment. If WOW is going to supply a 80" one @ around $150 , I would expect it would be an even greater dissappointment.

[chilipecker]

Staggerwing,
Was it Confucius who said "The sweet taste of cheap price is quickly replaced by bitter taste of cheap product"?

[mike2663]

I like that. Can I use that from time too time? Mike

[staggerwing]

Staggerwing,
Was it Confucius who said "The sweet taste of cheap price is quickly replaced by bitter taste of cheap product"?

It was your statement of proposed 80" kit price you initially had in your add (but just deleted) I was refering to w/ my comment---If you considered that & your comeback, you would realize we are in agreement on cheap items

[Jim_Marconnet]

Not sure I understand why someone would make a 79 inch wingspan monoplane, thus slamming the door on the Giant Scale flyers, who need 80 inches and perhaps more!

Jim

[chilipecker]

I guess if your building something for yourself to fly at your local field or school parking lot, and your not into the IMAA scene, then it's no big deal. But if I were a kit company selling to as large of an audience as possible, it's a no brainier to go the extra inch.

I think Fahim at WOW figured that out. Just hoping some of you guys will get behind one of these and help persuade either company to offer a kit.

[chilipecker]

It was your statement of proposed 80" kit price you initially had in your add (but just deleted)

I'm not running an ad! I'm not here trying to sell anything, just trying to generate interest so either one of these companies will offer a kit so I can buy one...

Also, I didn't put a price on anything, I stated that it would be more than the price of the current 62" kit, and that hopefully I would hear back from them on a price. You came up with the $150 on your own, and that's why I just deleted any mention of price at this point. I have no way of knowing what the price will be, and just thought it best not to confuse the issue at this early stage.

[awrightbrother]

Hello all,
I thought I should chip in here and provide some more info on my models:

1. To most people a kit implies a ton of laser cut balsa parts that are glued together, covered in some way and painted. Requires considerable building expertise and time. While an ARF implies nothing to build, just final assembly, with no, or very little freedom to personalize the finished model. My models are neither kits nor ARFs

2. They are what I call NARFs. A NARF is "Nearly an ARF" and allows the personalization of finish and building options. Skill level and time investment is more than an ARF and considerably less than a kit.They are made of pre-cut foam parts, about 15 to 20 in all. A complete set of vacuum formed plastics such as cowls, canopy, gun turrets, etc. The can be finished in many different ways. I prefer to use a product that I also sell called "Liquid Sheeting".

3. Below are pics of what comes out the box of my 62" B24 Liberator NARF.

4. The end result is a model that could look like the ones below, built by a few of my customers. These are the 62" version. Here are links to their threads. The last one is a video.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973325#post11208262
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=910971#post10373189
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1016545#post11792982
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1058165#post12359642

5. You may also want to browse thru the construction manual at my website to see how a NARFs is put together.
http://www.wowplanes.com/B24_Manual.htm

6. My design philosopy is that a model should look good, fly good, and not cost an arm and a leg in money or time. It should allow personalization by the modeller and be "one of a kind". I make no compromises on scale looks unless it is absolutely necessary to improve flying characteristics. Even then the changes are such that they are not visually obvious.

Chillipecker and a few others have asked for a 80+" version of this model. This is very doable, especially as I have the 62" version that has been proven and can be scaled up and built to look very impressive in flight.

The 62" version NARF is listed at $139, and my best guesstimate at this stage is that a 80"+ version NARF would come in between $249 and $299.

We are trying to gauge what level of interest there might be for such a sized version amomg teh Giant Scale enthusiasts. Both your positive and negative comments & questions are most welcome, and will help us decide whether it is worth the effort.

Fahim