FAA vs AMA

[ScaleNVYflyr]

Has everyone see the proposed regulations governing model aircraft.

The banishment of turbine powered aircraft and anything over 55lbs.. if accepted by the FAA.

http://www.modelaircraft.org/news/ama-faa.aspx

[mike2663]

Has everyone see the proposed regulations governing model aircraft.

The banishment of turbine powered aircraft and anything over 55lbs.. if accepted by the FAA.

http://www.modelaircraft.org/news/ama-faa.aspx

I received a a E Mail from the AMA in regards to this. I suggest we all need to read up on this one. The AMA is working with the FAA on this and at some point if this we may be asked to make our opinions heard on this. Read Dave's Presidents Perspective in the June MA mag for more info. Mike

[navee8or]

Gentlemen, I too am unerved by the potential prospects of what could happen, just what we need is more regulation, but as one of you said"let's ban together" please do us all a favor and don't invite the misguided persons responsible for some of the stupid stunts I've seen on you tube with model airplanes. As the majority of responsible modelers, we see the potential liabilities that are there. Some examples.... chasing a bird with an rc plane flying an rc plane through a car tunnel and buzzing groups of people. These are not stellar examples of who we are and what we do. Unfortunately the this is the image that the public is seeing. I don't want to even think of what could be done to correct the situation.The only question I ask is how did WE let this happen???? navee8or

[mike2663]

Gentlemen, I too am unerved by the potential prospects of what could happen, just what we need is more regulation, but as one of you said"let's ban together" please do us all a favor and don't invite the misguided persons responsible for some of the stupid stunts I've seen on you tube with model airplanes. As the majority of responsible modelers, we see the potential liabilities that are there. Some examples.... chasing a bird with an rc plane flying an rc plane through a car tunnel and buzzing groups of people. These are not stellar examples of who we are and what we do. Unfortunately the this is the image that the public is seeing. I don't want to even think of what could be done to correct the situation.The only question I ask is how did WE let this happen???? navee8or

Its unfortunate that the examples you site happen but even with government regulations they will continue. That a look at gun control. The ones committing crimes with guns don't give a crap about 'the rules". All we can do is project ourselves in a positive light when given the opportunity. When the AMA calls us to to be heard we need to do it. We are a very small group of people but can be heard. Mike

[jayvo86]

Pretty much it's no big deal except for the turbine banishment stuff and the limitation to 55 pounds. I'm confused though. It says up top that if you have the necessary training standards you don't fall under section 3, however in section 3 it talks about how turbine banishment would affect the hobby. So whats the deal??

[mike2663]

Pretty much it's no big deal except for the turbine banishment stuff and the limitation to 55 pounds. I'm confused though. It says up top that if you have the necessary training standards you don't fall under section 3, however in section 3 it talks about how turbine banishment would affect the hobby. So whats the deal??

Rather than getting a half answer here why not contact your District person or AMA headquarters? Might be tough to get ahold of someone I think most are enjoying Joe Nall. Mike

[CryHavoc]

The Silent Flyers over on Mission Bay in the San Diego area are under class B airspace I believe. Better have your cell phones charged up so you can call ATC when you want to fly. And then be prepared the next day when San Diego ATC has decided we're too much of a PIA and we need to go.

I'm really suprised the AMA has not addressed/rebutted this issue.

Mike

[navee8or]

to mike 2663, I

[navee8or]

TO Mike 2663, I whole heartedly agree with you that we should take full advantage of the media to project us in the light that we are responsible and care to operate in a safe manner. It is true,these unfortunate things happen. The the persons that are doing these I don't give a s***t attitude. What can we do to protect ourselves and our activities??? In a lot of communities our fellow clubs support community with contributions to all kinds of things for the betterment of the communities we live in. The only thing I can honestly see is legal action against the offenders. What do we charge them with is another matter. Violating FAA regulations, wreckless operation of a model airplane? I seriously think our national organisation should do is not just "suggest" how we do things but instead some how lay the rule down period. And at the same time just let it be known that if you don't want to comply, then you will face legal action.If we dond't take care of things I'm sure the FAA will have no problem in resolving it the only problem will be is will we like their solution???? navee8or

[bwalt822]

Everyone calm down and read the thing. It says that AMA members will be allowed to fly under current AMA rules. Those not in the AMA should not complain because they dont want to join a national organization that can speak to the goverment.

The AMA is working closely with the FAA on this topic and has been since the start.

[mike2663]

Everyone calm down and read the thing. It says that AMA members will be allowed to fly under current AMA rules. Those not in the AMA should not complain because they dont want to join a national organization that can speak to the goverment.

The AMA is working closely with the FAA on this topic and has been since the start.

So far everyone being calm and I haven't heard the sky is falling here yet. My concern is that most will ignore this. I stated the AMA was working with the FAA in regards to this in a earlier post but if you read Dave's article I think he made it pretty clear that the FAA was playing with all the cards on this one. I'm concerned over the turbine and 55 pound max limit. Time will tell has this one will pan out. Mike

[Thomas B]

So far everyone being calm and I haven't heard the sky is falling here yet. My concern is that most will ignore this. I stated the AMA was working with the FAA in regards to this in a earlier post but if you read Dave's article I think he made it pretty clear that the FAA was playing with all the cards on this one. I'm concerned over the turbine and 55 pound max limit. Time will tell has this one will pan out. Mike


If you are an AMA member, the turbine restriction does not apply. The AMA system already regualtes turbine use. The 55lb weight limit covers the vast majority of models and as long as you are AMA, they will have the normal waiver system for models up to 100 lbs.

Looks like the AMA is working hard to give us the best possible results, with the least effect on us.

The people that are not AMA members will need to organize swiftly and immediately contact their congress critters to fight this, or they will end up giving up some of the ways that they fly, now.

[Tonystott]

The panic being spread is as bad as when Airforce One flew overhead for photos.

The document in question specifically relates only to the ARC deliberations regarding commercial use of radio-controlled aircraft. So if you aren't flying your aircraft commercially please ignore this document!

[mike2663]

The panic being spread is as bad as when Airforce One flew overhead for photos.

The document in question specifically relates only to the ARC deliberations regarding commercial use of radio-controlled aircraft. So if you aren't flying your aircraft commercially please ignore this document!

Nowhere in Dave's column or in any of the documentation I
I've read does it specify "Commercial Only". If you have something otherwise handy please post it. This is a potential problem area for us. As far as "calming down" I don't see anyone jumping off buildings yet. Information not mis-information is the key. Mike

[Thomas B]

The panic being spread is as bad as when Airforce One flew overhead for photos.

The document in question specifically relates only to the ARC deliberations regarding commercial use of radio-controlled aircraft. So if you aren't flying your aircraft commercially please ignore this document!

The commerical guys will indeed get regulated...however, the FAA is indeed looking at some basic rules for the hobby type model aircraft, with the AMA acting as our collective voice to keep things as reasonable as possible..

It will not affect you down under, so why the big red typeface?