R/C battery wholesale from china,better than zippy.

[Zeneee]

Please check our website www.zeneee.com
We promise our battery are best with lower lower price.
Have any requirments please feel free contact us.
Mark

[everydayflyer]

That is really great news as I have been looking for the best LiPolys at really low prices for about 6 years now. In the past only the very expensive brands have proven to be worth my time and money and even some of them were very disapointing.

Would you be interested in sending a few of us some samples for free? In return we will test them and post our results for the world to see.

Will you be adding more battery choices? Perhaps a 3S 850 and a 3S 1000.


Charles

[Zeneee]

That is really great news as I have been looking for the best LiPolys at really low prices for about 6 years now. In the past only the very expensive brands have proven to be worth my time and money and even some of them were very disapointing.

Would you be interested in sending a few of us some samples for free? In return we will test them and post our results for the world to see.

Will you be adding more battery choices? Perhaps a 3S 850 and a 3S 1000.


Charles
Hi,If you willing pay freight fee 20USD.I will send one free sample 3S 30C 2200mAH pack for your test.
Sorry,We don't have plan to develop many types until now.

[marc1]

Do you have sample test data you can post here? 10C, 20C, 30C discharge curves? What about lifecycle test data?

Everydayflyer will spend several hours testing your product, you should probably send him a few packs for free as his endorsement is highly trusted amongst us.

[Mighty Manfred]

Hi,If you willing pay freight fee 20USD.I will send one free sample 3S 30C 2200mAH pack for your test.
Sorry,We don't have plan to develop many types until now.

Good answer!

[rich smith]

Please check our website www.zeneee.com
We promise our battery are best with lower lower price.
Have any requirments please feel free contact us.
Mark


Your packs seem to cost about twice what HobbyCity charges and your shipping is about 6x more. Maybe "higher higher" is more like it? :)

[Julez]

Everydayflyer will spend several hours testing your product, you should probably send him a few packs for free as his endorsement is highly trusted amongst us.

I agree!

Good test results from Charles will be worth more than any advertisements or promises. :)

[Gary Hoorn]

Good test results from Charles will be worth more than any advertisements or promises.
Absolutely true!
Gary

[write2dgray]

I just finished a round of Zippy testing (3S 2200 size). Please let me know if interested, I could also produce some direct comparative results.

- David

[EricJ320]

I just finished a round of Zippy testing (3S 2200 size). Please let me know if interested, I could also produce some direct comparative results.

- David

Something tells me they won't take you up on your offer!

[Zeneee]

Your packs seem to cost about twice what HobbyCity charges and your shipping is about 6x more. Maybe "higher higher" is more like it? :)
Our products mainly focus on 30C line.
The shipping cost under 10pcs(every type) is EMS for 20USD and UPS for 30USD.

[rich smith]

Our products mainly focus on 30C line.
The shipping cost under 10pcs(every type) is EMS for 20USD and UPS for 30USD.

If that is the case then you are competitive. Certainly better than most.

[head-wind]

Our products mainly focus on 30C line.
The shipping cost under 10pcs(every type) is EMS for 20USD and UPS for 30USD.


we need info about the weight of your packs
in the web site.
Thanks

[everydayflyer]

Perhaps I am confused but I posted

Will you be adding more battery choices? Perhaps a 3S 850 and a 3S 1000.

This was after looking on the site and seeing a 2S 850. It would seem to me that if one has the ability to assemble a 2S 850 they could also assemble a 3S 850.

Site has a 3S 1300 but as I already have 10 3S 1320s which are very lite and can not really flight test any that weigh more than 3.2 oz.(95 gr.)

Responce

Hi,If you willing pay freight fee 20USD.I will send one free sample 3S 30C 2200mAH pack for your test.

A free 3S 30C 2200 for $20 shipping is a generious offer if one is in need of such. I have plenty of such LiPolys both 30 and 40C ones. I also have plenty of 4 S 3300 both 30 and 40C.

Perhaps some other time.


Charles

[Mighty Manfred]

Perhaps I am confused but I posted



This was after looking on the site and seeing a 2S 850. It would seem to me that if one has the ability to assemble a 2S 850 they could also assemble a 3S 850.

Site has a 3S 1300 but as I already have 10 3S 1320s which are very lite and can not really flight test any that weigh more than 3.2 oz.(95 gr.)

Responce

.

A free 3S 30C 2200 for $20 shipping is a generious offer if one is in need of such. I have plenty of such LiPolys both 30 and 40C ones. I also have plenty of 4 S 3300 both 30 and 40C.

Perhaps some other time.


Charles


Stalemate.

[RC Man]

I am looking for some 5s 5000 30C packs. Hobbycity sells them for $99.02 and you sell then for $155. Also you don’t list the battery weight. For my applications weight is important.

Also 6s 5000 30C packs are very popular for the Trex helicopter and hobbycity is always selling out of them. You should consider adding that battery and make an effort to get the price closer to hobbycity.


.

[Zeneee]

Perhaps I am confused but I posted



This was after looking on the site and seeing a 2S 850. It would seem to me that if one has the ability to assemble a 2S 850 they could also assemble a 3S 850.

Site has a 3S 1300 but as I already have 10 3S 1320s which are very lite and can not really flight test any that weigh more than 3.2 oz.(95 gr.)

Responce

.

A free 3S 30C 2200 for $20 shipping is a generious offer if one is in need of such. I have plenty of such LiPolys both 30 and 40C ones. I also have plenty of 4 S 3300 both 30 and 40C.

Perhaps some other time.


Charles
Ok,please email me you address and telephone,i will make one sample for your test.
Thank you

[Zeneee]

I am looking for some 5s 5000 30C packs. Hobbycity sells them for $99.02 and you sell then for $155. Also you don’t list the battery weight. For my applications weight is important.

Also 6s 5000 30C packs are very popular for the Trex helicopter and hobbycity is always selling out of them. You should consider adding that battery and make an effort to get the price closer to hobbycity.


.
5S 5000mAh 30C weight 605g.
I will try to offer the best price,but please noted our packs have better performance.

[Mark Wood]

Prove it.

mw

[RCBABBEL]

Prove it.

mw





mw,

He already did in his first post...

"We promise our battery are best with lower lower price." ;) ;)



rc :)

[Zeneee]

mw,

He already did in his first post...

"We promise our battery are best with lower lower price." ;) ;)



rc :)
Hi,If you interested in,i will send one free sample 3S 30C 2200mAh to you.
You will know the different between zippy and zeneee.

[RCBABBEL]

Hi,If you interested in,i will send one free sample 3S 30C 2200mAh to you.
You will know the different between zippy and zeneee.



Mark,

I will gladly test one for you.

I don't have a lot of testing equipment but I love overpowered planes and fly almost as much as I post. :D

rc :)

sending pm

[Zeneee]

Mark,

I will gladly test one for you.

I don't have a lot of testing equipment but I love overpowered planes and fly almost as much as I post. :D

rc :)

sending pm
hehe
Please email me your address and telephone no.
I knew you buy many batteries from zippy,please compare our batteries to zippy.
Thank you

[pmackenzie]

You need to add pack weights to your site.
For now a list here would be useful.

Pat MacKenzie

[RCBABBEL]

hehe
Please email me your address and telephone no.
I knew you buy many batteries from zippy,please compare our batteries to zippy.
Thank you



Will do.

Additional info sent.

rc :)

[Zeneee]

You need to add pack weights to your site.
For now a list here would be useful.

Pat MacKenzie
Hi Pet
The website will be updatednext monday.
Our 3S 30C 2200mAh pack weight 174g
Thank you for your suggestion.

[Zeneee]

please send the mail to sales@zeneee.com if anyone interested in our products.

[jooNorway]

5S 5000mAh 30C weight 605g.
I will try to offer the best price,but please noted our packs have better performance.

Nice. 70 grams less than my FP EVO`es.

[marc1]

I wonder if these cells have similar chemistry to the new Hyperion Generation 3 cells?

email message sent.

[write2dgray]

I just finished a round of Zippy testing (3S 2200 size). Please let me know if interested, I could also produce some direct comparative results.

- DavidConsider sendijng a pack my way as well - myself and others would definitely be interested to see how they measure up against those Zippy packs.

- David

[Mighty Manfred]

O.K., I promise to use the "H" out of one if you send it to me and report back. I can log all results with a Hyperion Duo 2!

Hey, I'm begging, here!

[Zeneee]

Sorry,we only have a litter free sample to send someone
Please try to place small order from our website .
really great performance.
Quantity below 10pcs freght fee 20USD for EMS or 30USD for UPS.

[Mighty Manfred]

Sorry,we only have a litter free sample to send someone
Please try to place small order from our website .
really great performance.
Quantity below 10pcs freght fee 20USD for EMS or 30USD for UPS.


Somehow I knew (deserved?) that! :o

Say, is Hu Phlung Dung doing the design work on these puppies?

[Camel Tow]

Somehow I knew (deserved?) that! :o

Say, is Hu Phlung Dung doing the design work on these puppies?


Your post count doesn't even move you into the "barely considered" category. :p lol, just funnin ya, Jim :D

[pmackenzie]

Say, is Hu Phlung Dung doing the design work on these puppies?


What are you, 12 years old :confused:

[Mighty Manfred]

What are you, 12 years old :confused:


I could only wish! A fond memory, that-it seems to me the guy is fishing, so, what's the harm?

If I offended you or anyone else, I'm sorry.

It just appears to me that the guy is diving for dollars (or whatever) and it's a fair comment, of sorts.

[Mighty Manfred]

Your post count doesn't even move you into the "barely considered" category. :p lol, just funnin ya, Jim :D


Yes, I reckon that you, like me, have no right to whine!

Say, Joe, can I get a tow? :eek:

[Zeneee]

Weight information updated on the website.

[Zeneee]

Will do.

Additional info sent.

rc :)
Hi Roger
The sample 3S 30C 2200mAh pack had been sent to you today by UPS.
Please let us know your comment when complete the testing.
BTW,the sample have a long time to send to you as the products just stocked.

[RCBABBEL]

Great!

I'll keep a log book on it and post some Watt meter numbers for ya.

Thanks,

rc :)

[RC Man]

Glad to see that you have some nice 6s 5000 packs for Trex 600 helicopters. Do you have any test results of your 5000 cells with the internal resistance (IR)?



:) :cool:

[Zeneee]

Glad to see that you have some nice 6s 5000 packs for Trex 600 helicopters. Do you have any test results of your 5000 cells with the internal resistance (IR)?



:) :cool:
Please check 1S 30C 5000mAh discharing graph attached

[CooHead]

Hey Z.

I sent you an e-mail and a PM.

I started with Thunder Power and then switched to Xcite and now I'm tryingg Zippy and Rhino. I have an order of 3S and 4S batteries coming from UH. If you would like me to compare your LiPos to these new Zippys and Rhino packs, I would.

I gave you my information and history in the e-mail.

Let me know.

CooHead

[RC Man]

Has anyone on this forum received batteries from Zeneee?

[bassmanh]

zenee,

what balance taps do your packs come with ? and are all packs checked for balance BEFORE they are shipped ? thank you



bassman

[Tom Harper]

Zeneee,

That's an impressive curve!

[RCBABBEL]

zenee,

what balance taps do your packs come with ? and are all packs checked for balance BEFORE they are shipped ? thank you



bassman



Web site says... Balance Connector: JST XH

Sounds like they are just starting to ship.

rc :)

[Zeneee]

Web site says... Balance Connector: JST XH

Sounds like they are just starting to ship.

rc :)
Yes,
thank you

[write2dgray]

Zeneee,

That's an impressive curve!I'll say. I've never seen that high of voltage under 30C load. I'd love to put that to the test on a CC load, but it's doubtful anyone will take me up on that offer, just the same as my other offer here (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12056345&postcount=30) to compare head-to-head with recently tested Zippy packs to substantiate the title of this thread.

- David

[bassmanh]

rc,

thanks i didnt see it on the website, think i might be needing glassesin my old age ;) lol
anyword as far as the battery checks before they leave the factory ?

thanks again


bassman

[RCBABBEL]

rc,

thanks i didnt see it on the website, think i might be needing glassesin my old age ;) lol
anyword as far as the battery checks before they leave the factory ?

thanks again


bassman


I did find this on their web site for ya...



"All the products we sell come with a 12 month warranty. We provide full after-sales service to our whole sale customers and dropshippers. Warranty benefits apply equally to wholesaler orders and dropshipper single item orders.

Zeneee.com chooses products to sell based on their excellent designs and proven reliability. So the quality is guaranteed.

We check all of your orders during the packing stage to make sure that the right accessories are included and that the adapters and other standards are correct for your country.

We have a QA team who tests your ordered products are functioning correctly before they are packed and sent to you. This is in addition to the normal quality assurance checks that all the goods have passed in the factory line.

All our products are covered by a 12 MONTH WARRANTY, for return and repair / replacement.

In essence this means that faulty products can be returned to Zeneee.com"





rc :)

[RCBABBEL]

Received my sample pack on Thursday evening 5/7/09.

Looks very well made.

All cells were resting @ 3.88, 3.88. 3.88V

Pack measures 100mm X 35mm X 24mm (3.96" X 1.37" X .95")

Power wires are 14AWG All wire feels very high quality.

Balance connector is JST XH style.

Motor test runs feel powerful.

Will post some watt meter #s and flight reports as weather permits.


My scale shows stock pack weight to be 180g (6.30oz)


rc :)

[RC Man]

Received my sample pack on Thursday evening 5/7/09.

Looks very well made.
All cells were resting @ 3.88, 3.88. 3.88V
Pack measures 100mm X 35mm X 24mm (3.96" X 1.37" X .95")
Power wires are 14AWG All wire feels very high quality.
Balance connector is JST XH style.
Motor test runs feel powerful.
Will post some watt meter #s and flight reports as weather permits.

My scale shows stock pack weight to be 180g (6.30oz)

rc :)
Can you measure the cell IR? That’s the easiest way to quantify the power that the battery can deliver.

:) :cool:

[RCBABBEL]

Can you measure the cell IR? That’s the easiest way to quantify the power that the battery can deliver.

:) :cool:



I've got no way to measure cell IR.

I believe that Zeneee was also sending Charles a pack.

Did that happen?


rc :)

[PolyNoOne]

Do not say you are better than others, people will make his own decision after test. For Chinese battery companies, I think it is necessary to construct an rule to facing the powerful competition such as TP, PQ,FP etc. We need unit, although people know most famous brands are OEM from China, they do not trust Chinese factories and Chinese brands, we need know why and need know how to do.

[Camel Tow]

I've got no way to measure cell IR.

I believe that Zeneee was also sending Charles a pack.

Did that happen?


rc :)


Most good chargers will tell you, and the IR should go down during the 1st 10 cycles or so -

Charles' opinion on batteries of all types has always been the final word for me, so I will eagerly await his findings - Jim

[PolyNoOne]

Most good chargers will tell you, and the IR should go down during the 1st 10 cycles or so -

Charles' opinion on batteries of all types has always been the final word for me, so I will eagerly await his findings - Jim

Correct. For battery, the most important factors which effect the performance is IR, so if one who can control his battery in stable IR during the charge/dischrage, the battery must be successful.
So, to all R&D engineerers, how to make battery in stable IR and how to control battery IR in one certain range are the main jobs for us. Presently, we try to control the single cell's IR at about 3~6mOhm for 30~40C, but if charge at higher rate or discharge at higher rate, it is possible that some points in the electrodes will be over oxidized which will cause the active substances irreversible, eventually the battery will be invalid.
This will be showed at charge/discharge curves, if charge/discharge at 1C/20C for one 20C battery, plateform of charge will getting higher but discharge plateform getting lower.
Another, IR will cause the point-temperatuer different. As we know, temperature is one important data while flighting.

[jfetter]

I've got no way to measure cell IR.

rc :)

What tests were you going to do exactly then? I'm a fan of real-world use but I'd expect some data too?

Jack

[jfetter]

Presently, we try to control the single cell's IR at about 3~6mOhm for 30~40C

That seems pretty high from what I've seen, I have FlightPower 20C packs with lower IR than that (we're talking in the 2mΩ range) and have heard the new Thunder Power Pro Power cells are in the sub 1mΩ range? What are you measuring the IR with, I imagine that explains some of it? At some point the world needs to come together on measuring IR for accurate product A to product B comparisons...

Jack

[flazo]

Do you have sample test data you can post here? 10C, 20C, 30C discharge curves? What about lifecycle test data?

Everydayflyer will spend several hours testing your product, you should probably send him a few packs for free as his endorsement is highly trusted amongst us.

Everydayflyer is one our sources for product reviews=Lipo and multiquemistry batteries and chargers too.

fred

[Zeneee]

Everydayflyer didn't get our sample as he just require 3S 850mAh pack.
Maybe i wll try to cntact him to send this type for testing soon.
Regarding the discharging graphs,I don't think you believe the data we posted.
We will see the results from RCBABBEL.
Thank you.

[jfetter]

Everydayflyer didn't get our sample as he just require 3S 850mAh pack.
Maybe i wll try to cntact him to send this type for testing soon.
Regarding the discharging graphs,I don't think you believe the data we posted.
We will see the results from RCBABBEL.
Thank you.

No independant graphs, no chance! RCBABBEL doesn't even have a way to check IR...

Jack

[Mighty Manfred]

Well, I guess subjective reports are better than nothing, but it seems most let "free" cloud or influence their opinions.

[bassmanh]

jack,


so your saying you have a way of testing them if they send you a FREE PACK ?

why not buy one and test it out yourself then post a review here for all of us to see and compair them to other batteries .

if i had a way of testing thats what i would do!!!!!





bassman

[jfetter]

jack,

so your saying you have a way of testing them if they send you a FREE PACK ?

why not buy one and test it out yourself then post a review here for all of us to see and compair them to other batteries.

if i had a way of testing thats what i would do!!!!

bassman

Me!? Heck no! What Charles does is way above and beyond, my point was he was saying if not Charles (since he somehow didn't get the free pack), then he'd wait on RCBABBEL. My point was one is giving only his impression and the other will do that plus back it with graphs and data...

Jack

[bassmanh]

RCBABBEL,


any testing yet ? i am a bit curious to see how well these packs work. if they are as good or better than the zippy's i will be ordering some of the 3700 mah 3s packs for my planes.


please dont make us wait to long :)



bassman

[RCBABBEL]

Well, I guess subjective reports are better than nothing, but it seems most let "free" cloud or influence their opinions.


Sorry for the delay. Family, work, weather.



I'm a long time rc lover that just luckily was sent a "free" Zeneee.
It won't influence my opinion.


I know that Zeneee wanted me to compare the pack to Zippy. All my Zippy packs are small or on back order. I fly 3 to 4 year old 13C TP PLs. (1320mAh)

Test plane. Hacker Super Zoom 4D, Hacker A20 22L motor, Hacker X-30 ESC, 11x7 prop. Plane AUW without battery is around 13.7oz.

When I strap on a large heavy pack it had better give me some serious performance to justify the weight gain. The Zeneee didn't. :(

Watt meter #s before the flight.

Zeneee 2200mAh 11.1V 30C (180g)

11A 130W


TP PL 11.1V 13C (90g)

11A 113W


Yes the Zeneee had more vertical power than the TP in the sky.
Not enough of a difference to justify twice the weight gain.


I was expecting so much more from a 30C pack.
If there is something that I'm overlooking here, just let me know.

I plan to charge both packs and get rpm readings this afternoon.


rc :)

[Mighty Manfred]

Diogenes' effulgent lamp gleams? Well, I got offered a free power supply for $45 shipping: what do you think I should do?

[jfetter]

I was expecting so much more from a 30C pack.
If there is something that I'm overlooking here, just let me know.

rc :)

What you should have gotten from those numbers is the new pack is holding 3.93 volts per cell while the other one is only holding 3.82, that is an improvement. You can't really expect a plane to fly well with double the weight battery, that's not a fair test but you can see the voltage under load...

Jack

[marc1]

So, any emperical data with a flight data recorder or a battery analyzer?

[RCBABBEL]

What you should have gotten from those numbers is the new pack is holding 3.93 volts per cell while the other one is only holding 3.82, that is an improvement. You can't really expect a plane to fly well with double the weight battery, that's not a fair test but you can see the voltage under load...

Jack


True... but whoever said that (battery) life was fair? ;)

Quick rpm check...
Zeneee 7,700
TP 7,100

Not bad.

I know it's really not very fair to compare the two packs with such a huge weight difference. 180g vs 90g

But

I tried my little brother's TP Prolite 2100 in the same plane a month ago and it was a beast. Very fun to fly. Once again another weight difference. The TP 2100 is estimated at 138g.

I guess I was expecting big things from a 30C rated pack.

rc :)

[everydayflyer]

Years ago when the first 20C PolyQuest LiPolys came along many of us quickly figured out that if a 20C weighted twich as much as the same capacity 10C then in fact you would be better of with a 10C with twice the capacity. Some LiPoly manufacturers have since figured out how to increase the C without adding so much more weigh and some have not.

Everydayflyer didn't get our sample as he just require 3S 850mAh pack.
Maybe i wll try to cntact him to send this type for testing soon.

This was true however at present I would be more interested in testing a 3S 2100 or 2200 if it does not weigh over 200 grams and is at least 30C.
I am currently testing TP Pro Power 30C,SMC 25 and 40C and soon Hyperion G3, in 25 and 35C in this size range.


Charles

[bassmanh]

rc,

i guess i would have to see these packs get used close to there C rating and see how the volts under load would be then.

you really arent making them work to hard at 11 amps :) . also would like to see them worked in something a bit bigger like a pulse xt 25E or electrostik .

my zippy 3600 mah 20c packs work very well in both those planes. i might have to order a couple of the zenee packs and compair the 2 once i get a little ahead in the cash department LOL.



bassman

[Zeneee]

Years ago when the first 20C PolyQuest LiPolys came along many of us quickly figured out that if a 20C weighted twich as much as the same capacity 10C then in fact you would be better of with a 10C with twice the capacity. Some LiPoly manufacturers have since figured out how to increase the C without adding so much more weigh and some have not.



This was true however at present I would be more interested in testing a 3S 2100 or 2200 if it does not weigh over 200 grams and is at least 30C.
I am currently testing TP Pro Power 30C,SMC 25 and 40C and soon Hyperion G3, in 25 and 35C in this size range.


Charles
Got it.Please advise the address and telephone number to us.
I will send one 3S-30C-2200mAh sample for your test.

[Zeneee]

rc,

i guess i would have to see these packs get used close to there C rating and see how the volts under load would be then.

you really arent making them work to hard at 11 amps :) . also would like to see them worked in something a bit bigger like a pulse xt 25E or electrostik .

my zippy 3600 mah 20c packs work very well in both those planes. i might have to order a couple of the zenee packs and compair the 2 once i get a little ahead in the cash department LOL.



bassman
Thank you.
Did you order 30C line from zippy before ? Hope you can give us the difference between Zippy and zeneee when you get our packs.

[Zeneee]

True... but whoever said that (battery) life was fair? ;)

Quick rpm check...
Zeneee 7,700
TP 7,100

Not bad.

I know it's really not very fair to compare the two packs with such a huge weight difference. 180g vs 90g

But

I tried my little brother's TP Prolite 2100 in the same plane a month ago and it was a beast. Very fun to fly. Once again another weight difference. The TP 2100 is estimated at 138g.

I guess I was expecting big things from a 30C rated pack.

rc :)
Thank you.Roger

[mt_100]

So all this chat and no true independent test results besides a flight or two and opinion?

Ever notice in threads where people ask for a sample to test never have the ability to do a decent test or always have an excuse? Bothers me.

[marc1]

Seems like a bit of a waste of time and money for the retailer ?

[bassmanh]

zeneee,

can you tell me why your prices on the 3700 mah 11.1 battery went up by $9.00 ?? for buying 6-10 packs.

it was at $42.00 a pack last time i looked now its at $51.00 a pack ? guess i will stay with the packs i have been buying.


bassman

[everydayflyer]

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