GA-510 advanced Gyro and 760us Servo Adapter(Fixed your GY-401)

[ASSAN]

hi,every one.

we prepare to lunch two new items.

one is our first advanced Gyro,called GA-510.it's with big size LCD,can operate 760us fast tail servos.etc.any way,it's a new Gyro for 3D flying.

another one called 760us Servo Adapter.this one will help the pilots who hold on their old style Gyros,such as GY-240,GY-401 etc,can operate the newest 760us tail servos,like BLS251,MKS8910 etc. by this way, your old Gyro refresh and working good again.

here have a video. GA-410 gyro+760us adapter+MKS8910 servo at 450 heli.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODM3MzM0OTY=.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on7tD6vUGRE

GA-510 test video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYh_FQqtbbo

i hope you like it.

best,

meng

[Ghostfit]

Nice one Meng, would be nicer if there was some demo of basic 3D flying in that GA510 video.

Anyway, have ordered and am waiting for mine to arrive.

Cheers
Tony

[kgfly]

Interesting new products. Few will find those videos compelling evidence of their performance but they are a start :)

My compliments on the very clever idea you have with the 760us adapter, it will be interesting to see how popular they become.

The GA510 also shows real innovation and creativity, you have a good team there Assan. At first from the photo above I thought the LCD was on a control box for the gyro, then I realised it is the gyro itself !

Specifications0. Quartz (piezo) sensor
1. Working voltage: DC 3.3 ~9V
2. Working current: 40 mA
3. Working temperature: -5C ~ 60C
4. External dimensions: 38 × 30 × 17 mm
5. Weight: 20gA little bit larger and heavier than many of the current generation SMM gyros but the benefit is the built-in display which is a very nice feature. The manual is quite good and based on what I saw there, it looks like an excellent user-interface.

I think a lot of people would be looking for an SMM version of this gyro but it all depends on the pricing and the performance of this piezo version.

[ASSAN]

I think a lot of people would be looking for an SMM version of this gyro but it all depends on the pricing and the performance of this piezo version.

thank you.

Piezo version is also good. actually, we have SMM version,the have been finished design and test. we don't think it's better than Piezo mostly.

we are looking for the reports of the wide testting in this period.

yours,

meng

[gerard_nl]

just received my package, thank you mr meng.

onto testing

gerard, the netherlands

[i3dm]

Cant wait to try mine :)

[ginnz]

has anyone tried the 510 yet??? i have 2 logitech 6100t's, one on my 600 rex, and one on my Hoss X5R (500 rex)... and i really like them, as a matter of fact, they replaced GY401's and are much better IMO.....

this new offering from ASSAN looks like the 6100T.....

i really wanna hear some opinions on how it works, how the setup is, ect.... i may just order one for a third 500 rex im building as a beater/practice bird..... i have a spare 9650 and 9254 servo laying around i may use with it....(either/or)

so, lets hear it.... ;-)

[pepetone]

hello hang ...

I bought the ga510, but I can not set correctly on my t-rex 450s with Futaba 9257 servo. setting the normal / avcs is ok, the sensitivity was 38%.

the problem is that while in flight avcs, tail wheel slowly to the left.

what are the steps in for a good setting with this gyro?

when using Static drift correction ?

thanks

[ASSAN]

hello hang ...

I bought the ga510, but I can not set correctly on my t-rex 450s with Futaba 9257 servo. setting the normal / avcs is ok, the sensitivity was 38%.

the problem is that while in flight avcs, tail wheel slowly to the left.

what are the steps in for a good setting with this gyro?

when using Static drift correction ?

thanks


i see. on the screen, there have a ajust item,it's drift correction. if your Gyro drift to lest slowly. you need ajust it one or two steps,and watching again.

this feature is design for that.

yours,

meng

[pepetone]

i see. on the screen, there have a ajust item,it's drift correction. if your Gyro drift to lest slowly. you need ajust it one or two steps,and watching again.

this feature is design for that.

yours,

meng


ok .. I try! thanks

[Ghostfit]

I faced the same problem as pepetone on my maiden (In a TZ50V1 nitro heli)
After several hover/land/dial the 'drift compensation' setting, managed to get it hovering but tail was nowhere near 'locked in'.

I suspect it may be necessary to setup the tail in rate mode first (Mechanical centering) before switching to HH mode with this gyro.
Did not get a chance to try this on the maiden, will do this on the next opportunity.

On the bright side, I just love the display and ease of programming/setting with this gyro ...just switch it on and it tells me what my Rx voltage is ! :)

...more testing and comments to come.

[Ghostfit]

Managed to get more flights last weekend,

Okay, I've had to dial in -21 for the built in drift compensation and it flew pretty well.

However in the hands of a good buddy who is more skillful than me, backward flights reveals that the gyro is far from optimum.

So the final verdict:

For the price, I really have no complains, it'll do the job for a beginner learning the ropes. But anyone looking for a cheap Spartan/Mini G/502 replacement had better look elsewhere.

[nasukaren]

Ghost -

Thank you so much for your review of the GA-510. I was thinking of getting it for my HDX-450, but have decided to save my pennies and get something else. Maybe the new Futaba.

Karen

[Ghostfit]

Hi Karen,

I'm not saying the GA510 is bad, in fact I kinda like it's interface.

What I am trying to say is not to compare this to a Spartan, Mini G or anyone of the top end gyros out there.

Cheers
Tony

[kgfly]

OK, not a high-performance Spartan-class gyro, that is clear and not suprising. I would be interested in your views about:

a) Is it the same/better/worse than other piezo gyros you have tried ?

b) How do you think it compares to some of the mid-range SMM gyros like the GY401, LT2100, Align750 ?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

[Ghostfit]

*At this point in time* I would rate it just below the LTG 2100/GY401 class.

Fast backwards flight sees the tail blowing out at the slightest touch of rudder.

* - To be fair, I have to state that the TZ50/OS hyper50 this thing is on has only ran thru 5 tanks of fuel, so the slightly rich setting could be giving the gyro a hard time.

* - another factor to consider is that my GA510 is currently connected to a Hitech HS6965HB (0.08 sec) servo pending a test with a Futaba BLS251 tail servo.

Would love to hear other's experiences :p

[ASSAN]

*At this point in time* I would rate it just below the LTG 2100/GY401 class.

Fast backwards flight sees the tail blowing out at the slightest touch of rudder.

* - To be fair, I have to state that the TZ50/OS hyper50 this thing is on has only ran thru 5 tanks of fuel, so the slightly rich setting could be giving the gyro a hard time.

* - another factor to consider is that my GA510 is currently connected to a Hitech HS6965HB (0.08 sec) servo pending a test with a Futaba BLS251 tail servo.

Would love to hear other's experiences :p

thank you for your reports.seems that is not a good news. :(

recently, our teamer take some more tests on 50 class nitro helis. they also think that GA-510's behaviours are not good in big size heli.if compare with it in 450 helis'. they think it's fine in 450 or small helis, but in 50 or more,the system still has problems, it's not hard solid in tail.

we will try to find the reason and slove the problem soon. i wish.

any advice are welcome

yours best,

meng

[Ghostfit]

Meng,

I have your Assan 2.4g system controlling the TZ50 and have only wonderful things to say about it so I would really like to see the GA510 succeed.

Here's my feedback: :)

1) The LED interface is really good and user friendly, it should be kept and improved.
2) The gyro had quite a fair bit of drift running from day to day, although you can trim it with the drift correction menu, it can become a hassle in the long run. Better to incorporate some means of an auto drift compensation circuitry which can be user re-initialised.
3) This is a big gyro, it needs to be reduced in size to address the 450 heli market.

I've tried quite a few Piezo gyros and I'll say this is the best of the lot, hopefully your engineers can work and improve on it and hopefully we will see an affordable Piezo unit that works as well if not better than any SMM ones out there in the market.

[ASSAN]

Meng,

I have your Assan 2.4g system controlling the TZ50 and have only wonderful things to say about it so I would really like to see the GA510 succeed.

Here's my feedback: :)

1) The LED interface is really good and user friendly, it should be kept and improved.
2) The gyro had quite a fair bit of drift running from day to day, although you can trim it with the drift correction menu, it can become a hassle in the long run. Better to incorporate some means of an auto drift compensation circuitry which can be user re-initialised.
3) This is a big gyro, it needs to be reduced in size to address the 450 heli market.

I've tried quite a few Piezo gyros and I'll say this is the best of the lot, hopefully your engineers can work and improve on it and hopefully we will see an affordable Piezo unit that works as well if not better than any SMM ones out there in the market.

thank you.

for the point 2. " drift running from day to day ". this one is because our guy make a mistake in the hardware assemble. we find a way to less that,the tests show it's useful in 450heli, but we feel puzzle when it's moved to 50 nitro heli, there still have some problem, i.e the tail not like a stone,it's with soft moving.i think that guy who play 3D will feel it's not good.

for the size, did it's really big? our most test flying are in 450 helis.our pilots think that is fine.like GY-401/GY611,they are also at big size and weight.

if you want, you can ship back the GA-510 which you hold and we take a little update and ship to you for using.

yours,

meng

[Ghostfit]

thank you.

for the point 2. " drift running from day to day ". this one is because our guy make a mistake in the hardware assemble. we find a way to less that,the tests show it's useful in 450heli, but we feel puzzle when it's moved to 50 nitro heli, there still have some problem, i.e the tail not like a stone,it's with soft moving.i think that guy who play 3D will feel it's not good.

for the size, did it's really big? our most test flying are in 450 helis.our pilots think that is fine.like GY-401/GY611,they are also at big size and weight.

if you want, you can ship back the GA-510 which you hold and we take a little update and ship to you for using.

yours,

meng
I have not tried it on a 450 size heli but on my 50 nitro forwards flight are okay as well as stationary flips into invert, backwards flight shows it's weakness when the tail blows out.
I know what you mean by "soft moving", it seems all piezo gyro has this characteristic.

If you compare it to some of the newer gyros on the market ie: Spartan, Mini-G, GY520 or even the clones: GY48V, GY401B, etc ...IT is a BIG gyro ! :D
I have no problems as I'm running it in a 50 size nitro but the 450 heli guys would feel it's size.

Thats why I love you Assan guys ! :) ...you're always listening and willing to assist your customers.
Will be sending my unit back to you for some tweaking. ;)

Thanks
Tony

[be1974]

I really like the Gyro, especially the big display, when you fix the small problems, I will give it a try in my mini titan SE.

[pepetone]

I really like the Gyro, especially the big display, when you fix the small problems, I will give it a try in my mini titan SE.

ok :)

[nakamatic]

I have my new GA510 gyro, but i don't know wich servo type set, i'm using a GWS park HPX servo, it's fast, 0.05, but it's an analog servo, should i use 1250us/333Hz?

[ASSAN]

I have my new GA510 gyro, but i don't know wich servo type set, i'm using a GWS park HPX servo, it's fast, 0.05, but it's an analog servo, should i use 1250us/333Hz?

hi,

seems 1520us/333Hz is fine.


yours best,

meng

[nakamatic]

Thank you very much

[nakamatic]

i've burned the servo with this configuration :(

[ASSAN]

i've burned the servo with this configuration :(


sorry about to hear your bad news.

i will ask the guy in GWS about this later.


yours best,


meng
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ok, i asked and got the answer.

he said the old version HPX servo can't worked at 333Hz, and he told me that the best way is waitting for their digital fast servo if you wanted apply it as tail servo.

i am sorry about this trouble and mistake.

so, as i understand the HPX servo is a fast servo, but it' s not a digital servo.


yours,


meng