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TowerTrainer
Mar 05, 2009, 03:05 PM
What is better slope soaring or Thermial soaring for a beginer to fly. I am thinking about buy a sail plane but i dont know what one is better . Can some one help in please?

KillerAir
Mar 05, 2009, 03:24 PM
Do you have a slope near by?

rdeis
Mar 05, 2009, 03:27 PM
Depends a lot on your local terrain.

Do you have experience with other RC aircraft?

SaltyOne
Mar 05, 2009, 03:48 PM
IMHO a beginner thermal sailplane would probably be a better choice. They usually float around and fly very slowly. This gives a beginner plenty of time to learn how the controls respond and to correct errors. Most planes that are designated as "slope soarers" are designed to fly at higher speeds than the typical thermal sailplane. Some are even aerobatic. The nice thing about a thermal sailplane is that you can take it to the slope and it will work fine, assuming not too much wind.

George

TowerTrainer
Mar 05, 2009, 05:54 PM
ok thank you George

TowerTrainer
Mar 05, 2009, 05:55 PM
killerplane i dont have one right by me but i know of a good place and rdeis i do have experience with powered aircaft and thank you both

will_newton
Mar 05, 2009, 06:11 PM
are there folks flying at your slope site already? they would be the ones to ask. also good choice of thermal plane might be a DLG (Discus launch glider) since you can fly without needing any launching accessorieskillerplane i dont have one right by me but i know of a good place and rdeis i do have experience with powered aircaft and thank you both

TowerTrainer
Mar 05, 2009, 08:44 PM
no one flies at my slope site and i would agree there about the DLG

Mtntop
Mar 06, 2009, 10:40 AM
IMHO the best way to learn is on a slope with a floater like a Gentle Lady but not in too much wind. The advantage of this is you get and easy, slow and stable glider to fly and more air time per launch over flat land flying thereby learning at a quicker rate. Most slopes you are able fly below, at and above eye level so you have better chances of actually seeing what slight inputs do in flight. On flatland, thermal flying it's a bit more difficult to see these changes and understand whats going on.

You said you have prior power experience so either way shouldn't be a problem. Let us know what you decide and how it goes.

prodjx
Mar 06, 2009, 12:09 PM
I think the learning curve with an EPP glider on the slope is one of the best way's to learn. It would help to have a sloper get you out about 3 mistakes high as well.

target
Mar 06, 2009, 12:17 PM
I think the "best" is a thermal type glider with an electic motor and a folding prop.

They are a bit more complicated, but you get a *LOT* or air time, and the motor can get you out of a tight spot if you are careful.

If you stay on the lightish side, it will thermal well.

If you tend to the heavier side, you will be able to use it on the slope, expecially if equipped with ailerons.

Good luck,
Target

jcstalls
Mar 06, 2009, 12:26 PM
2 meter pure glider, Wander, Gentle Lady or the like.
Stock.
Simple cheap high start.
Simple radio with dual rates
Enjoy, learn and share.

Then if you like it, move up to others.

KISS it!

Jared

KillerAir
Mar 06, 2009, 12:55 PM
Thermal plane is going to give you mare airtime with out a doubt. Since you do not have a slope that near to you I would +1 on an electric 2 meter plane. They thermal well, will give you more than enough airtime and can also be used on the slope if you feel the need.
I would suggest a Multiplex EZ Glider sailplane or powered, inexpensive, durable elapor foam and easy to repair and flies very nice. Will thermal well, and can take slope abuse. Can add you own ailerons if you desire at any time.
There are many others depending on you experience level and budget.

cynjon
Mar 06, 2009, 01:24 PM
Thermal plane is going to give you mare airtime with out a doubt. Since you do not have a slope that near to you I would +1 on an electric 2 meter plane. They thermal well, will give you more than enough airtime and can also be used on the slope if you feel the need.
I would suggest a Multiplex EZ Glider sailplane or powered, inexpensive, durable elapor foam and easy to repair and flies very nice. Will thermal well, and can take slope abuse. Can add you own ailerons if you desire at any time.
There are many others depending on you experience level and budget.


+1...

target
Mar 06, 2009, 02:47 PM
Here's an inexpensive one for sale right now....

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1012500

Skycruiser
Mar 06, 2009, 03:28 PM
Canterbury Sailplanes do an EPP DLG which would fit all those requirements. Can be discus launched on a flat field, able to handle the Gs so ok for slope, and made of EPP for durability. Only 2 channel too so nice and simple.

Personally for a slope I'd use a flying wing though, because they're pretty much indestructable.

Nick

Hostage-46
Mar 06, 2009, 04:34 PM
And I'll say it again.

If I was getting into soaring I'd get a Parkzone Radian. Incredible value, excellent flyer, and it will work in the slope too!

aeajr
Mar 07, 2009, 05:21 AM
If you make a mistake on that slope, where will the plane land? If it is soft and easy to retrive a downed plane, the slope can be great.But many slope sites have rough or difficult to reach areas ifyou mess up.

As stated above, an e-glider will giveyou a safety feature on the slope. If you get in trouble, or if the lift dies, just power up and fly out. You don't need much power to do this. The geared speed 400 on an Easy Glider Electric is more than adequate as a back-up on the slope.

I fly both, but I teach over flat land rather than the slope for this reason.

TowerTrainer
Mar 07, 2009, 04:11 PM
thank you you target i think i will go with a slope plane and then work from there

TowerTrainer
Mar 07, 2009, 04:13 PM
thank you to the rest of you guys for helping me out

target
Mar 07, 2009, 04:18 PM
thank you you target i think i will go with a slope plane and then work from there


Your welcome!

Good luck in your endeavors.

Target

TowerTrainer
Mar 07, 2009, 11:56 PM
yeah i will need it

TowerTrainer
Mar 07, 2009, 11:57 PM
i might buy a freeflight and make it a sloper