Big 2ch ARFs

[pitviper51]

Hi again,
just wondering whats out there anymore for big 2ch arfs. i know about the BOT and i dont want one. the vista 2m is a great glider but im hoping to find something bigger. i was planning to get a full house ship but in light of some car issues i am looking for cheaper backup plans, thanks again in advance
mike

[marc 540]

The BOT ARF is a great first big sailplane..I have over 100 flight's on mine along with a few ground loop's, cartwheels, wingtip landing's and accidental dork landing's :eek: No fuse or wing failure's. kind of heavy though at 61oz. Still thermals great evan at that weight!!

Marc 540 :)

[pitviper51]

well, i have had a few older used 2m, the size it great and after seeing a friends bot fuse fail, aswell as poor rudder authority im going to stick away from it for now, i am just without a simple glider right now after the old one got busted up last summer. there has to be more out there
mike

[atmosteve]

Aaaah, getting used to rudder as opposed to ailerons??? ...

[Oldcoot2]

Delete
Just re-read your post and see that you wanted ARF

[bfretless]

How about the 3.1 meter Hi Aspect-RES from Art Hobby? Or the 2.5 meter Thermic-RES?

Art Hobby (http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html)

[rdeis]

Hi again,
just wondering whats out there anymore for big 2ch arfs.

Define "big" and "arf."

2m is little by most people's standards, and few 2m+ airplanes have only 2 channels (most rudder-elevator ships have a third for spoilers or flaps).

A cost range would be helpful, too, before people suggest Topaz and Ava. (Which are both 3 channel, but qualify as BIG and ARF by most standards.)

Also- older and used models can get you in to full house relatively cheaply, and still fly well enough that your average pilot can't use all their capability effectively.

[pitviper51]

Aaaah, getting used to rudder as opposed to ailerons??? ...

Define "big" and "arf."

2m is little by most people's standards, and few 2m+ airplanes have only 2 channels (most rudder-elevator ships have a third for spoilers or flaps).

A cost range would be helpful, too, before people suggest Topaz and Ava. (Which are both 3 channel, but qualify as BIG and ARF by most standards.)

Also- older and used models can get you in to full house relatively cheaply, and still fly well enough that your average pilot can't use all their capability effectively.

just for knowing, i dont want a 2ch because im learning haha. i fly alot of 3d power planes, the plan was to get a dragonfly strong used because my old spirit was totaled late last summer and i wanted a good thermal ship. but due to possible car repairs needed im trying to save money yet i need a glider. 2m is ok, and im not ruling out the vista as we plan to run the vista as a club class this year. but if i can find one over 3m RES would be ok, but alot of the stuff i found in that catagory was just as expensive as fullhouse glider, like topaz and ava. i suppose im not ruling the BOT out but im reallly hoping to find something else.. hope this helps everyone understand my situation. thanks.
mike

ps, i always liked the arthobby stuff but lots of building

[Andy W]

Suggest you look for a used model that meets your criteria.
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[pitviper51]

this is crazy, hard to belave the topaz ava and bot are the only things out there.. looks like a 2m haha. will see how it goes.. looks like the vista isnt due till april now. :(

[envynlust]

Bfret...is right, Art Hobby has some good planes at pretty good prices. There really isn't much to the building of them, and performance with regards to there prices is great. Most hardcore sailplanes guys usually have one or two still in their garage.

[aeajr]

this is crazy, hard to belave the topaz ava and bot are the only things out there.. looks like a 2m haha. will see how it goes.. looks like the vista isnt due till april now. :(

What did you find.

[pitviper51]

gonna try to finish what i have haha,, ill end up with a vista or ep later this spring. to many projects yet to finish haha
mike

[pitviper51]

got my vista now,, should fly this week,.. the giant aerobat i fly as been soaking up most of my time but time to get ready for glider meet.
mike

[aeajr]

You dont' say if you want electric or pure glider.

If you don't mind foam, the Parkzone Radian is RTF and flies great!